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Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:51 am to upgrayedd
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Nothing like older generations imposing onmillennials even more of a reason to be a smarmy, entitled, worthless group of people
FIFY
It all goes back to the Baby Boomers trying to create another generation just like them.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:51 am to RLDSC FAN
don't get too excited.
pretty sure that:
means you have to make payments for 20 years. then after 20 years the balance is "forgiven"
pretty sure that:
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income-driven repayment plans
means you have to make payments for 20 years. then after 20 years the balance is "forgiven"
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:52 am to CorporateTiger
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Another example of things going wrong when the government inserts itself into a private market.
The loans exist because the government inserted itself in the first place. The federal government guaranteed these loans for several decades, meaning there was zero risk to the lenders. The worst part is that the federal government makes money off the scheme -- to the tune of $60 billion per year.
I would humbly suggest to you that this situation is much worse than you think, and it is not a matter of the government simply stepping in and playing hero. They created this situation in the first place.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:52 am to Willie Stroker
geez, these pussy millennials want everything for free
Hard work, what's that?
Sincerely,
Millenials
Hard work, what's that?
Sincerely,
Millenials
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:52 am to lsunurse
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I just went back to school and had to take out a small amount in student loans (to cover what my work tuition reimbursement didn't cover). Won't graduate till February. So I won't have to pay that back now?
Yes, you will.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:53 am to upgrayedd
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. The cost of college is way too high because they're run by bloated govt bureaucracies so most of the problem lies with the govt itself.
Aren't the most expensive colleges private?
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. Paying for some retard to get a degree in art history or gender studies is not an investment. It's pissing away taxpayer money.
An educated population is never a bad thing and always a good investment. I'd rather someone piss away their life learning and teaching about art than sitting home doing nothing.
Educated people typically commit less crimes, think of it as crime prevention and just making the country better in a way that's hard to quantify.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:53 am to hombreman9
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Don't loose too much sleep over it. They will spend the rest of their lives bailing out boomer pensions, social security and Medicare. You are winning.
I love how this board blames all their problems on the boomers like a bunch of whiny pussies.
"I can't help it that I went to college, the boomers made me this way!!!!!!"
Grow up and quit blaming everyone else for your problems.
I'm technically a millennial, BTW.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:53 am to TxTiger82
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I would humbly suggest to you that this situation is much worse than you think, and it is not a matter of the government simply stepping in and playing hero. They created this situation in the first place.
I think that is his point.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:54 am to stlslick
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Millenials
Did not create this situation, buddy.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:54 am to jefforize
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don't get too excited.
pretty sure that:
quote:quote:
income-driven repayment plans
means you have to make payments for 20 years. then after 20 years the balance is "forgiven"
Then, you report the "forgiven" amount as taxable income on your next tax return.
So say after 20 years, you still have $20,000 of loans left, the government forgives that $20,000...but your taxable income jumps $20,000 on your next filing.
Ouch. Not only did you just spend 20 years paying a shite ton in interest, now you have a bloated tax bill on top of that.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 10:56 am
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:55 am to RLDSC FAN
So, can I get my student debt forgiven? Ive paid a ton already and am hard working. Not a freeloading barista with a liberal arts degree.
Can I have my handout like everyone else......(the answer is most likely no) so Ill just continue to be responsible and pay my loans off like a contributing member of society.
Can I have my handout like everyone else......(the answer is most likely no) so Ill just continue to be responsible and pay my loans off like a contributing member of society.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:56 am to upgrayedd
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There are a couple problems here.
1. The cost of college is way too high because they're run by bloated govt bureaucracies so most of the problem lies with the govt itself.
2. Paying for some retard to get a degree in art history or gender studies is not an investment. It's pissing away taxpayer money.
So restrict access and offer degree programs as dictated by industry. Don't have enough doctors? Offer to pay their school bill, on the condition they work in certain sectors for a certain time. Don't have enough welders/carpenters? Put the higher education dollars in votech programs.
The money should go to where the jobs will be, not where the students want to go.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:56 am to stlslick
Boomers caused the mess, dumbass
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:56 am to Dire Wolf
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I think that is his point.
Maybe, but his comment seemed narrowly construed to focus on the government's latest policy, which (as another poster pointed out) is primarily geared toward recovering a certain percentage of loan payments.
This is a stop-gap revenue scheme, not a solution.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:56 am to LucasP
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Aren't the most expensive colleges private?
Probably but I don't think they make up the bulk of the debt.
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An educated population is never a bad thing and always a good investment. I'd rather someone piss away their life learning and teaching about art than sitting home doing nothing.
Educated people typically commit less crimes, think of it as crime prevention and just making the country better in a way that's hard to quantify.
If we're going to make an education investment, it needs to be in trade skills, not mass communication.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:56 am to TxTiger82
That was exactly my point. Hence my comparison to the ACA
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:57 am to RLDSC FAN
Forgiving the loans all together is a bad way to go. I had about 50k in loans from undergrad and graduate school that I am still paying off every month.
What I would like to see instead of full forgiveness is a decrease in the interest rates on the loans. Maybe take the loans from 6-8% interest rate down to 1.5-3%.
I knew when I was taking them out that I would be paying it back someday, but what I failed to see was the amount that would go towards principle v. amount that goes towards interest.
What I would like to see instead of full forgiveness is a decrease in the interest rates on the loans. Maybe take the loans from 6-8% interest rate down to 1.5-3%.
I knew when I was taking them out that I would be paying it back someday, but what I failed to see was the amount that would go towards principle v. amount that goes towards interest.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:58 am to NYNolaguy1
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Don't have enough doctors? Offer to pay their school bill, on the condition they work in certain sectors for a certain time.
I think they have something like this for a commitment to work in poor areas. Same with teachers.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:58 am to NYNolaguy1
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So restrict access and offer degree programs as dictated by industry. Don't have enough doctors? Offer to pay their school bill, on the condition they work in certain sectors for a certain time. Don't have enough welders/carpenters? Put the higher education dollars in votech programs.
The money should go to where the jobs will be, not where the students want to go.
I agree. If we're going to fund this stuff, it has to be based on market demand, not fantasy.
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