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US Pilots reporting the 737 MAX 8 tilting down after turning autopilot on

Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:07 am
Posted by Reda LSU
Los Angeles
Member since Jan 2013
4190 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:07 am
US Pilots reporting the 737 MAX 8 tilting down after turning autopilot on


It's time US FAA shuts down use of all these planes till they get a software reboot on the autopilot system.

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The Max 8 is at the center of a growing global ban by more than 40 countries following a second fatal crash, this time in Ethiopia, in less than five months.

The pilots said that soon after engaging the autopilot on Boeing 737 Max 8 planes, the nose tilted down sharply. In both cases, they recovered quickly after disconnecting the autopilot.

In the U.S., however, the Federal Aviation Administration and airlines continued to permit the planes to fly.

American Airlines and Southwest Airlines operate the 737 Max 8, and United Airlines flies a slightly larger version, the Max 9. All three carriers vouched for the safety of Max aircraft on Wednesday



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A third pilot complained that Boeing had not explained changes to the plane's automation to pilots.

"I am left to wonder: what else don't I know?" the pilot wrote. "The Flight Manual is inadequate and almost criminally insufficient."



But why? It's obviously an issue and AA and Southwest have a shite ton of other planes they could use to fly. I know if I'm flying and I see I'm set to fly on that plane, I will be giving up my seat for the next flight.

This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 9:15 am
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
3249 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:09 am to
worthless fricks at FAA won't do anything till one crashes on US soil
Posted by Fonzarelli
Dallas
Member since Jan 2015
3972 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:10 am to
I ain't riding one of those.

Which airlines use them?
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2662 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:12 am to
SWA bought them for Hawaii service
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:13 am to
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American Airlines and Southwest Airlines operate the 737 Max 8, and United Airlines flies a slightly larger version, the Max 9.


Delta finna eat.
Posted by Reda LSU
Los Angeles
Member since Jan 2013
4190 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:15 am to
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worthless fricks at FAA won't do anything till one crashes on US soil


the sad but true aspect of the US FAA.

40 countries ban this plane for safety and US says frick it, ride it till something happens
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19691 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:18 am to
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It's time US FAA shuts down use of all these planes till they get a software reboot on the autopilot system.


Yeah right. Too much $$$ involved.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:22 am to
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The Flight Manual is inadequate and almost criminally insufficient."

Boeing probably geared the flight manual towards foreign pilots. American pilots tend to want to know how the systems work, what is the chain of events if something malfunctions, what are the indications, what other systems could be affected. Foreign airlines train their pilots to push certain buttons at certain times without any real understanding of what’s actually happening when they turn something on or off other than the fact that they’ve turned something on or off.
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 10:02 am
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19691 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:26 am to
Seems like there should be a centralized standard of training for pilots being that citizens from across the globe use them for transport. Maybe I should get my pilot’s license Incase I ever hear “is there a pilot on board...?” over the intercom.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40136 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:27 am to
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US Pilots reporting the 737 MAX 8 tilting down after turning autopilot on



Easy fix; just have pilots fly the planes instead of drinking tea and getting bjs from hot flight attendants.
Posted by TnMountaineer
Minglewood
Member since Aug 2018
3490 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:30 am to
Hot flight attendants? What airline do you fly on? That’s a rare sighting these days.
Posted by Reda LSU
Los Angeles
Member since Jan 2013
4190 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:33 am to
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getting bjs from hot flight attendants


Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97641 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:33 am to
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hot flight attendants.


Been a long time since I’ve seen one of these on a domestic flight
Posted by Reda LSU
Los Angeles
Member since Jan 2013
4190 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:34 am to


Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:35 am to
Imagine the experience she brings though
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:35 am to
This will affect SW Hawaii plans?
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19691 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:37 am to
Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13356 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:38 am to
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worthless fricks at FAA won't do anything till one crashes on US soil


Someone at Boeing is buddy buddy with someone at the FAA.

I may be wrong but didn't something like that happen with the FAA and McDonnell-Douglas with the DC10?
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:40 am to
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hot flight attendants


These days you have to go on an Asian carrier for those. Thank God for Singapore Air

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 9:43 am to
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Seems like there should be a centralized standard of training for pilots being that citizens from across the globe use them for transport. Maybe I should get my pilot’s license Incase I ever hear “is there a pilot on board...?” over the intercom.
I can’t get the full article to pull up because of a paywall but Boeing admitted last November after the Lion Air crash that they had intentionally left out information about the automated MCAS system from the flight manuals so as not to “inundate the average pilot with too much technical or unnecessary information”
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