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re: US marriage rate hits new low.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:34 am to CorporateTiger
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:34 am to CorporateTiger
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This generation is also less religious and therefore more likely to co-habitate without shame.
very good point. My SO and I fall directly into this category as well. Many religious family members were not too thrilled when we moved in together before marriage.
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:37 am to StopLightObservation
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If I had a choice between a hot foreign girl or a hot America girl, is pick the foreign girl every time. They aren't worthless fat pieces of shite, and they are probably poor which means they will appreciate all the millions I will make.
I doubt you have ever touched a boob based on this post.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:47 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Call me a backwards close minded theocrat but the decline in marriage is not good news.
I think it comes down to women wanting equal status in the job market. To truly do that (and I don't buy into the pay gap theory) they need to essentially either stay single or marry later in life (after grad school, after a few years in career) and not have kids.
Both drive down the marriage rate and drive down how many kids high income families have.
For reference, having two kids in daycare (at $30k+/yr for both...) and paying for a home in the NYC area (for a decent house + taxes say $2.5k- that's another $30k/yr) requires at a minimum $150k (if not more) together.
With 30%+ of NYC living at or below the poverty line, you can see how that creates two very different societies living next to one another.
The point is, if you want money it's more difficult to have a family. If you want a family, you better marry a very wealthy person.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:50 am to Grim
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Ehhh, it's not so black and white
Not to mention the issue of how these factors influence marriage. There are studies of single mothers where many of the subjects report not marrying because they don't feel they're financially stable enough to do so. So there's probably some measure of bi-causality going on. Plus it also depends on what other factors are controlled for.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:51 am to NYNolaguy1
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The point is, if you want money it's more difficult to have a family. If you want a family, you better marry a very wealthy person.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:58 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Call me a backwards close minded theocrat but the decline in marriage is not good news.
Only people who hate data are not concerned with the decline of marriages and, more specifically, children born out of wed-lock.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:02 pm to Grim
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Ehhh, it's not so black and white. Depends on the reason for not marrying. If you're talking about people who have kids outside of marriage and try to raise them by themselves then yeah, that's bad. But there are also a lot of highly educated young people now who realize marriage is a terrible investment and completely unnecessary to live a fruitful life. Those people don't harm society
I think it is probably comparable to cohabitation before marriage statistics. IIRC Cohabitation before marriage used to correlate to higher rates of divorce. Now, not so much.
How could this be? A theory would be that when it was not socially accepted, only the people who probably shouldn't get married in the first place lived together before marriage, and weren't afraid of "rule breaking" or in OT terms, "trashy."
Now that it has become socially acceptable, educated, stable folks cohabitate and it doesn't increase their odds of divorce at all.
Similarly, we may see the bad stats that correlate with children out of wedlock go down, but this isn't because marriage was the determining factor, but the character of the people involved in parenting in the first place. Marriage being a observable societal construct that non-trashy people followed for many years, boosting its correlative importance with good outcomes.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:39 pm to ldts
Student loans killed marriage
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