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Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:16 pm to TCO
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I don’t know why geography means so much to you people.
My state is going to vote for Trump, my vote is worthless.
Battleground states are a different story.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:17 pm to TCO
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It’s unimportant to me because my vote will basically go in the trash
Simply not true. All the millions of illegals are getting free money which is our tax dollars. If we stop that and deport them, our economy will do better than if not. Flooding them in has increased house and rents costs due to taking spare capacity. They also take jobs away and that hurts too as they send extra back to home country. Extra policing for high crime rates. Its a long list of costs.
Amazing how people don’t realize cost impacts of illegals and why voting does matter.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:19 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Has pretty much only gone up the past 3.5 years.
Labor rate is up since shutting down the economy? No way
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Trump wants to grow the economy (cant grow enough to cover inflation withougt accumulating more debt) and Kamala wants price controls.
Both are worthless ideas.
Growing the economy is a worthless idea?
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:21 pm to LNCHBOX
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Labor rate is up since shutting down the economy? No way
Sure.
Can we drop the talking point that gas was under 2 dollars and mortgage rates were in the 2's when Trump left office then?
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:22 pm to LNCHBOX
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Labor rate is up since shutting down the economy? No way
He forgot one detail, its lower than it was pre-pandemic.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:22 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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cumulative inflation has been a little over 20% since January of 2021
Lololol
If you believe that then we are done here. Don’t use the fake gov produced rates either, real inflation. What is house or rent payment now vs 4 years ago. Cost of food. Cost of insurance for both house and car. And on and on.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:23 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Can we drop the talking point that gas was under 2 dollars and mortgage rates were in the 2's when Trump left office then?
I'm happy to go off what the numbers were prepandemic.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:27 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Can we drop the talking point that gas was under 2 dollars and mortgage rates were in the 2's when Trump left office then?
Pre-pandemic, it was. I think my interest rate on the house we built and moved into in 2019 is either 1.75% or 2.875% and i specifically remember paying sub $2 prices for gas.
Correction, 2.875%
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:27 pm to BugAC
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Growing the economy is a worthless idea?
Using debt while we're in a period of high inflation, its retarded.
the govt has been using debt to grow the economy since 2009. Our economy is sick, its not working. If it was working, we wouldnt need keep stimulating the economy at full employment.
Its impossible to grow it enough to eat inflation, without using debt, and that just pushes the issue down the road.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:31 pm to OU Guy
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t. Flooding them in has increased house and rents costs due to taking spare capacity
The Biden administration purposely imported millions to drop wages.
The underclass these folks will create will be massive, expensive and destructive.
Joe Biden produced the recipe for destroying wages, Kamala has plans to make it even worse with price controls.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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the govt has been using debt to grow the economy since 2009. Our economy is sick, its not working. If it was working, we wouldnt need keep stimulating the economy at full employment.
Its impossible to grow it enough to eat inflation, without using debt, and that just pushes the issue down the road.
FWIW, i don't think we have a revenue problem. We have a spending problem. However, Trump's business friendly nature will bring in jobs which will only help things.
What is Trump's "using debt to grow the economy" policy you are referencing?
Posted on 10/29/24 at 2:41 pm to BugAC
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What is Trump's "using debt to grow the economy" policy you are referencing?
Exactly that. Deficit spending at below 5% unemployment is considered a stimulus.
We've done that every year since 2009, and we've done little more than creating jobs for immigrants.
Its believed by classical economists that deficit spending at full employment causes inflation.
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:08 pm to OU Guy
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What is house or rent payment now vs 4 years ago.
That’s what happens when 2 administrations print boatloads of money
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Cost of food
Price gouging is real. With capitalism, you take the good with the bad. The government doesn’t set the price of Cheerios.
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Cost of insurance for both house and car.
This is a state issue. Cmon man.
Found your profile pic:
Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:35 pm to RLDSC FAN
I know it’s anecdotal, but I don’t know a single person that doesn’t have a job.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:39 pm to TCO
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Found your profile pic:
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by TCO
Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:43 pm to TCO
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What is house or rent payment now vs 4 years ago.
That’s what happens when 2 administrations print boatloads of money
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Cost of food
Price gouging is real. With capitalism, you take the good with the bad. The government doesn’t set the price of Cheerios.
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Cost of insurance for both house and car.
Now you are deflecting when you have no stats to back ip your false statements.
It doesn’t matter because under the leadership of current admin inflation is out of control. It was lower under prior admin.
You first tried to say inflation wasn't bad and then you deflect into posting funny pics since your argument is toast.
You should stick to soccer lol.
Posted on 10/29/24 at 3:47 pm to OU Guy
if responding twice on page 1 when Kamala’s name was mentioned, it’s the use of “price gouging” that’s a dead give away this is a reddit transplant.
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 10/29/24 at 4:09 pm to OU Guy
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Now you are deflecting when you have no stats to back ip your false statements.
Which is funny because the only stat you provided was that inflation has been 33% over the past 4 years with nothing to back that number up.
So the government has cooked the numbers and it's not ~20%. Why do you think it's 33%? Why not 25%? Why not 50%? Hell some other poster in this very thread said it was 40%.
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