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re: US court sentences Ahmaud Arbery killer to life in prison

Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6945 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:09 pm to
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The rednecks tried to stop Arbery countless times.


Help me understand, what right did they have to do this? Further, what should Arbery have done, in your mind?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72675 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:23 pm to
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Show trial.

He was already convicted of murder and given life.

This was the federals with their Racism Trial because the shooters were white and the victim was black.


For my 49 downvoters, please explain to me why a man who was already tried and convicted for murder and sentenced to life in prison, needed a second trial by the federal government?

It's a simple question and I expect a simple answer.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38218 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:29 pm to
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If he had gotten a better angle when Arbery pointed the gun at them, then it probably would have.


Jesus Christ
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32376 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:33 pm to
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The rednecks tried to stop Arbery countless times.


So, I can try and “stop” someone (at gunpoint) if I think they did something without witnessing it?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62160 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:43 pm to
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I've found it usually limits how often someone can try to grab your shotgun away from you, if you simply don't point guns at strangers you have no business pointing a gun at



They were trying to hold him until police arrived. I refuse to pretend that's not acceptable.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62160 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:44 pm to
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So, I can try and “stop” someone (at gunpoint) if I think they did something without witnessing it?


I thought they had witnessed him leaving the abandoned house previously?
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
41912 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:51 pm to
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If he was just pointing the gun at him to detain him, until the real police got there, which happens often enough, and Arbery attempted to grab it and take it from him, that is arguably enough of a threat to shoot


Jesus Christ. You can't detain someone if you didn't see them commit a crime. "He might be a criminal" isn't justification for citizens arrest.

Arbery defended himself just like you would in that situation.

quote:

Is he supposed to wait for arbery to snatch the gun from him completely and point it at him before he can do anything?


No, he was supposed to mind his business and leave Arbery alone. They had no legal right to detain him. At all.

Is Arbery supposed to wait for them to shoot before he realizes they weren't there to murder or rob him?

If someone tries to rob you and you get shot trying to take their gun, the criminal doesn't get to claim self defense.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 2:53 am
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1010 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:52 pm to
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I've found it usually limits how often someone can try to grab your shotgun away from you, if you simply don't point guns at strangers you have no business pointing a gun at


They were trying to hold him until police arrived. I refuse to pretend that's not acceptable.

Your multiple posts have shown you know very little of the details of this trial. Just stop.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62160 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:54 pm to
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Your multiple posts have shown you know very little of the details of this trial. Just stop.


Nah, everything but my first post is completely in keeping with this trial.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38218 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:55 pm to
Damn, he was giving you an out for your awful posts and you didn’t take it.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62160 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:57 pm to
I don't need an out. There's nothing wrong with what I've stated here.
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1010 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:58 pm to
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Nah, everything but my first post is completely in keeping with this trial.

OK, the evidence showed that the killers never witnessed Arbery committing a crime and had no reason to try and "detain him". You said, "They were trying to hold him until police arrived. I refuse to pretend that's not acceptable." So its either you being ignorant of of the evidence or having a shitty opinion. Which is it?
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38218 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:58 pm to
You thought he had a gun on him and you think you can hold people who committed no crimes until the police arrive. You’re about as wrong as wrong gets, champ.
Posted by Spook
504
Member since Jun 2019
280 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:59 pm to
?????
This post was edited on 9/10/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62160 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 6:03 pm to
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the evidence showed that the killers never witnessed Arbery committing a crime and had no reason to try and "detain him"


The evidence showed they had actually called the police on him previously after witnessing him trespassing on another property. There's no reason to lie.

quote:

"They were trying to hold him until police arrived. I refuse to pretend that's not acceptable." So its either you being ignorant of of the evidence or having a shitty opinion. Which is it?


It's me knowing exactly what happened.
Posted by tigerfan8182
Lake Charles
Member since Nov 2014
314 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 6:05 pm to
Nah, you're an idiot.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53468 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 6:08 pm to
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What was Arbery supposed to do here? Apparently submit to “citizens arrest.”


If he did he’d be called a cuck but he might be still alive
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62160 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 6:09 pm to
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Nah, you're an idiot.


Nope. I'm correct. It's not even difficult to find for yourself. This evidence was presented during the trial.

LINK

quote:

the defense presented a 911 call placed by McMichael on Feb. 11, 2020 – two weeks before Arbury was fatally sho – where the defendant told an operator, “We’ve had a string of burglaries ... I just caught a guy running into a house being built two houses down from me, when I pulled around, he took off running into the house.”


The CNN article leaves off the part where Arbery was the person they called 911 about 2 weeks earlier, because they know idiots like you will not dog further.

LINK

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On February 11, 2020, surveillance video, this time accompanied by eye witness accounts and 911 recordings, once again captured Arbery at night inside the 220 Satilla Drive property.
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1010 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

the evidence showed that the killers never witnessed Arbery committing a crime and had no reason to try and "detain him"


The evidence showed they had actually called the police on him previously after witnessing him trespassing on another property. There's no reason to lie.

Is trespassing a felony?
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6945 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 6:12 pm to
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Nah, everything but my first post is completely in keeping with this trial.


I truly believe that you tried to follow the trial, and think you understand it. But, the truth is that you are simply a retard who wasn’t capable of doing it well.
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