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re: Update on the downtown library debacle

Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:16 am to
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:16 am to
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Did the City/Parish Engineers sign off on this design?

the only engineers that review permit dwgs are MEP...this is a structural issue and the design engineers are the ones potentially on the hook...not the city/parish
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8582 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:12 am to
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Hmmmmm, minority owned firms got the hold on this?
No. Nowhere does it say that. WHLC is not minority-owned. God damn, y'all are some hair-trigger mofos with this shite.
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With almost everyone having internet access, who needs a library in today’s environment?
I guess you haven't stepped foot in once recently to see the droves of people that do. Color me shocked.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58629 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:18 am to
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this is a structural issue and the design engineers are the ones potentially on the hook
or the contractors. There is a multitude of reasons that could have caused this failure. Design flaws, Bad welds, contractor short cutting and buying cheap bad steel, hell just bad steel coming from the manufacturer, etc. Thats why this lawsuit will be a long one.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:44 am to
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or the contractors. There is a multitude of reasons that could have caused this failure. Design flaws, Bad welds, contractor short cutting and buying cheap bad steel, hell just bad steel coming from the manufacturer, etc. Thats why this lawsuit will be a long one.


The advocate posted a remediation detail of the connection at the column of the can't/backspan, not sure if it was an asi or response to rfi, that showed some weld symbols and I think additional bolts that were missing in the original.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:54 am to
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The advocate posted a remediation detail of the connection at the column of the can't/backspan, not sure if it was an asi or response to rfi, that showed some weld symbols and I think additional bolts that were missing in the original.

[[Sad trombone sound]]
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58629 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:40 pm to
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The advocate posted a remediation detail of the connection at the column of the can't/backspan, not sure if it was an asi or response to rfi, that showed some weld symbols and I think additional bolts that were missing in the original.



First, where did the advocate get that? 2nd because they werent in the original it could be that they are just trying to get to non over stressed steel. How it apparently failed, it looks as though it was either bad welds, bad steel, or under designed. any of which could be blamed on contractor, manufacturer or engineer. IT is just hard to believe it was under designed who how conservative codes are nowadays along with the extra FOS most engineers put in these designs. Just my take.

Do the downvoters want to rebut me? cowards.
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 1:34 pm
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