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re: Update: ALL RESCUED - Doctors Father Dies
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:26 am to beauchristopher
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:26 am to beauchristopher
Problems with drilling:
1 Building a road to get the equipment there would take weeks or months.
2 Drilling into the exact location would be a feat of extreme engineering, since they still dont have it pinpointed.
No expert, just what I have heard talking heads say. This is already not a happy ending since a life has been lost. It is a long way from over and the worst could still happen.
1 Building a road to get the equipment there would take weeks or months.
2 Drilling into the exact location would be a feat of extreme engineering, since they still dont have it pinpointed.
No expert, just what I have heard talking heads say. This is already not a happy ending since a life has been lost. It is a long way from over and the worst could still happen.
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Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:36 am to CNB
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I know they’re considering drilling to them because of the boys hearing animals, what are the chances of a collapse if they do this
I would think it would be more of a problem if once they breach the area the water will fill it up if the trapped air is the only thing keeping the water at Bay. I guess it depends on where the water table is at
I wonder if they were able to maybe drop off a transponder so they can locate them from the surface.
This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 7:38 am
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:43 am to thejudge
Sounds like they are now worried about running out of oxygen in the cave.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:59 am to Janky
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Kinda salty this morning.
Not really. I just don't like ignorant mouth breathers that is all.
His comments in this thread show he fits into that category.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:04 am to bbeck
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I’d be out of air in no time from the panic attack that would ensue
Nerves of steel
Caves are really spooky dives. Even extremely clear water can turn to zero visibility very quickly as the light sediment in the cave gets stirred up. When both shoulders are touching a wall at the same time, it's hard to control breathing. It is cool as hell, but I'll never do it again.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:07 am to TheGasMan
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realistically can’t see a situation where all these boys make it out alive.
While I cruise the 50 pages of backlog, what has changed so dramatically that they could get in easily, but not back out ?
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:07 am to NotGrammarKnotsi
Flood water
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:09 am to RATeamWannabe
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Flood water
gracias...I was just trying to put together the one way situation
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:26 am to Jester
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Caves can be really spooky dives.
fixed it for you.
I find cave diving relaxing. Calming. Caves are my zen place to get away from the BS at the surface. I look forward to spending 3hrs at a time exerting as little energy as possible while taking in the beauty of the underwater world. Sometimes looking for new unexplored passage, sometimes documenting known passage, sometimes looking for prehistoric fossils, sometimes just focusing on my technique and "not dying." It's not for everyone, but with proper training and mindset it can be a pretty amazing thing.
Back to the Thai cave: if the water levels have been reduced enough that there are only small (50m or less) length of sump they must dive, then perhaps they should seize this window of opportunity. A danger now is not just the flooded areas (sumps), but that the air quality in the non-flooded portions is questionable. The full rescue team should be breathing through a regulator (SCUBA or rebreathers) the entire exit until they get to a known safe breathable gas. The gas requirements to get oh, 30 people in and 43 out will be tremendous.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:05 am to shell01
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This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 9:58 am
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:09 am to Jim Rockford
Is the team just fricked?
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:12 am to thejudge
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I wonder if they were able to maybe drop off a transponder so they can locate them from the surface.
Signals don't transmit through mountains.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:35 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Signals don't transmit through mountains.
Radiolocation does work through rock, and is often used to pinpoint areas of a cave to confirm survey accuracy. Max depth I've seen quoted is about 1km.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:39 am to shell01
Well learned something new then.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:40 am to shell01
What a callous and impudent post given the circumstances of the situation in Thailand.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:43 am to Jester
I've been wondering about something I've heard during the news coverage. They keep saying that some passages along the escape route are too small to fit a person with scuba gear (tank). That's a pretty small opening.
How did the group get to where they are now? Did they make their way thru these tiny passages only in a desperate attempt to escape incoming water? Or did they actually make their way thru as part of a "fun cave exploration"?
How did the group get to where they are now? Did they make their way thru these tiny passages only in a desperate attempt to escape incoming water? Or did they actually make their way thru as part of a "fun cave exploration"?
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:45 am to Boudreaux35
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I've been wondering about something I've heard during the news coverage. They keep saying that some passages along the escape route are too small to fit a person with scuba gear (tank). That's a pretty small opening.
I haven't followed this much but I assume that they are unable to get them food and water?
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:46 am to fallguy_1978
They have brought in food, water, blankets, and supplemental oxygen
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:48 am to fallguy_1978
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I haven't followed this much but I assume that they are unable to get them food and water?
Now that they have found them, divers are delivering food and water. If they go much longer, they'll probably need to find a way to provide fresh air (assuming they haven't already).
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:49 am to SEClint
quote:I think they’ll get them out
Is the team just fricked?
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