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re: 'Unprecedented': Property tax bills have reached double value for Texas homeowners
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:35 pm to NOLAVOL16
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:35 pm to NOLAVOL16
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I mean, if we want to save even more money then we could just force everyone to live in 500 sqft apartments or maybe even under their desks at their place of work like they attempt to do in China
Congrats on not getting the point and engaging at all.
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I assume youre a rational person and don’t favor that, which means that at some point quality of life has to be considered. Our difference comes down to where we draw that line.
Yes it does and the dependence on sprawl and car culture directly negatively impacts quality of life.
Do you really understand how much valuable land is wasted with giant parking lots and all the fricking roads and freeways we have to support the car culture?
That is what I am fighting against and the growth of the suburbs and shitty urban planning led to all of this.
This post was edited on 6/19/22 at 12:40 pm
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Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:37 pm to NOLAVOL16
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large number of people don’t really like living on top of other people and dealing with the city filth but still needed to be close enough to work there.
Is it your contention that people living in suburbs aren't living on top of each other?
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:43 pm to jclem11
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Yes it does and the dependence on sprawl and car culture directly negatively impacts quality of life.
No, it negatively impacts YOUR preferred/view of quality of life. If the quality of life in the burbs objectively sucked for everyone, PEOPLE WOULDNT MOVE THERE. But they do move there, in large numbers, away from the cities. They take a look at the high rise condo buildings and subways and crime and whatnot and STILL choose the sprawl and space instead.
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:45 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Is it your contention that people living in suburbs aren't living on top of each other?
Compared to the city? Absolutely. Compared to a farm? Of course not.
It’s a mix. 4 people living on a qtr or half acre is a hell of a lot better than 5000 people living on 1 acre stacked 50 stories high.
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:46 pm to NOLAVOL16
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No, it negatively impacts YOUR preferred/view of quality of life. If the quality of life in the burbs objectively sucked for everyone
I don't think anyone really enjoys their 1+ hour 10 mile daily commute.
The fact is the genie is out of the bottle and we're likely too far down the road to turn around, but his overall point is true. Look at the old cities in the northeast, they're neighborhood centric. There's hundreds of little neighborhoods that make up the city. That is a much better and more sustainable way to live than the horrible urban sprawl you see in post world War II cities.
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:48 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I don't think anyone really enjoys their 1+ hour 10 mile daily commute.
No they don’t but they’re willing to do it because the alternative is living in a city. Think about that. People are willing to give up multiple hours of their lives every day in order to NOT live in a city and give their kids a better life with space and good schools.
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:51 pm to NOLAVOL16
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No they don’t but they’re willing to do it because the alternative is living in a city.
I understand that, you don't seem to be grasping the concept. Post WWII cities and their suburbs are zoned and planned horribly, the reason these shitty cookie cutter suburbs exist.
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:51 pm to NOLAVOL16
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No, it negatively impacts YOUR preferred/view of quality of life. If the quality of life in the burbs objectively sucked for everyone, PEOPLE WOULDNT MOVE THERE. But they do move there, in large numbers, away from the cities. They take a look at the high rise condo buildings and subways and crime and whatnot and STILL choose the sprawl and space instead.
Then pony up to pay for all those extra roads and water and sewer lines needed to live in your cringe suburbs.
The suburbs need to pull their own fricking weight and pay way more in property taxes to justify their existence. The folks living in the city should not be forced to subsidize the existence of suburbs but that is generally what happens now.
I also hate parking minimums which also ruin our cities. Hell I live near 2 giant fricking parking lots that are never used and only exist because of retarded minimum parking rules.
My hatred is multifaceted but car culture is at the top of the list.
Read a little more on the topic and learn about induced demand. You may just change your mind and realize that I am right.
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:54 pm to jclem11
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jclem11
You are being too myopic with your points of view and delivery. There are benefits of what you are describing but you are discounting that others may have a different value equation than you. Suburbia is not for everyone nor is city living or rural living. These choices and options are positives collectively.
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:56 pm to NOLAVOL16
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No they don’t but they’re willing to do it because the alternative is living in a city. Think about that. People are willing to give up multiple hours of their lives every day in order to NOT live in a city and give their kids a better life with space and good schools
We waste all the space paving more and more miles of roads and freeways that we could use for idk, maybe a park or two, if not for all the sprawl.
Have you considered that?
The post WW2 sprawl and the "Freedom of the car" has lead us to the current clusterfrick we have today.
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:57 pm to lynxcat
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These choices and options are positives collectively.
I don't really see the positives of places like Plano or farmers branch if you fix the root of the problem.
Those are really just micro cities surrounding a larger city.
The crime is better but I'd argue that's a byproduct of the socioeconomics, not the fact that they're 15 miles away from the city center. Wealthy neighborhoods in cities are low crime too.
This post was edited on 6/19/22 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:58 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I don't think anyone really enjoys their 1+ hour 10 mile daily commute.
Strawman a little? Implying that living in suburbia equals an hour commute? This is the sort commentary that just diminishes the case trying to be made.
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:58 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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The crime is better but I'd argue that's a byproduct of the socioeconomics, not the fact that they're 15 miles away from the city center. Wealthy neighborhoods in cities are low crime too.
you literally have cities all over that will not respond to a murder in less than a couple hours
Posted on 6/19/22 at 12:59 pm to lynxcat
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Suburbia is not for everyone nor is city living or rural living. These choices and options are positives collectively.
How is the current path sustainable when in my one example the amount needed to be collected every year to prepare for road construction and maintenance is larger than the entire county budget for one year?
The current path is not sustainable and deferring everything to the future is going to blow up and bankrupt us all.
Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:00 pm to jclem11
Induced demand is just a way to frame “population growth” as a negative. You can’t stop people from living where they want to live so you either build roads/transit to support that growth or you force everyone to sit in gridlock and accept the negative economic consequences of that.
Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:01 pm to jclem11
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How is the current path sustainable when in my one example the amount needed to be collected every year to prepare for road construction and maintenance is larger than the entire county budget for one year?
well with no rule in the cities can pretty much could count on those folks just killing themselves in the ensuing chaos :lol
problem solved
Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:03 pm to gaetti15
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well with no rule in the cities can pretty much could count on those folks just killing themselves in the ensuing chaos :lol
You want to try that again?
Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:06 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You want to try that again?
he said it would bankrupt everybody, well if the economy collapses...city ain't going to be the safest places in the world tell you what
Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:06 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I don't really see the positives of places like Plano or farmers branch if you fix the root of the problem.
The alternative to Plano being more people living in Dallas County? How does this actually get achieved outside of building high rises?
The micro cities of Plano, Frisco, etc…I just don’t see the ‘problem’ of their existence. It’s a choice that many are making the same way their are folks that choose to live in a smaller house in the M steeets that provides access to Dallas proper and some walk ability.
Posted on 6/19/22 at 1:09 pm to NOLAVOL16
We have the widest freeway in the whole fricking world here in Houston and people still sit in fricking traffic everyday.
More roads and freeways is not the answer dude.
More roads and freeways is not the answer dude.
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