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Twin study finds space flight causes changes at the genetic level

Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
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106029 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:19 pm
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Scott Kelly spent 340 days in space in 2015–16, giving him a lifetime total of 520 days. Mark Kelly, also an astronaut, had previously flown in space for a total of 54 days over four space-shuttle missions between 2001 and 2011.
Space case

Because the two men have almost identical genomes and similar life experiences, NASA arranged to have blood and other biological samples taken from them to try and observe biological changes brought about by long-duration spaceflight.

Studies of the twins' telomeres, the caps on the ends of their chromosomes, showed that during spaceflight Scott's telomeres grew to be longer than his brother's. “That is exactly the opposite of what we thought,” says Susan Bailey, a radiation biologist at Colorado State University in Fort Collins. A second lab has studied the same samples and confirmed this puzzling increase in telomere length, she says.

Once Scott returned to the ground, the length of his telomeres returned to his pre-flight levels relatively quickly. The scientists are working to figure out what this means, and are running a separate study of telomere length in ten unrelated astronauts that, when completed in 2018, may shed more light on how spaceflight affects telomeres.

DNA methylation — the reversible addition of a chemical marker to DNA that can affect gene expression — decreased in Scott during flight and increased in Mark over the same period, Feinberg says. Levels for both men returned close to preflight levels after Scott came back to Earth. What this means isn’t yet clear, Feinberg says.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80820 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:22 pm to
So in short...

Something happened, then it unhappened, and they have no idea why or what it means.

Posted by Mir
Member since Sep 2016
2777 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:23 pm to
Obviously in space they weren't exposed to chemtrails so they changed.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15293 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:25 pm to
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Something happened, then it unhappened, and they have no idea why or what it means.


Oh the Scientist will make some shite up, and then get a nice grant check handed to them. They just haven't concocted the angle yet.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
28300 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:26 pm to
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Something happened, then it unhappened, and they have no idea why or what it means


thats what i got out of this

i guess i'll bookmark this for 2024 or something
Posted by Dirtman16
Madison, AL
Member since Nov 2012
410 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:27 pm to
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DNA methylation — the reversible addition of a chemical marker to DNA that can affect gene expression — decreased in Scott during flight and increased in Mark over the same period, Feinberg says.


Are they saying Mark's changed on Earth while his twin was in space? If so, that's freaky!
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70468 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:29 pm to
What is does mean is, even if it unhappened, long term space travel will have signifigant impacts on genes. Ie, reproducing on another planet
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106029 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:30 pm to
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Are they saying Mark's changed on Earth while his twin was in space? If so, that's freaky!


Do you even quantum entanglement, bro?
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33782 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:31 pm to
so in summary

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What this means isn’t yet clear
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70125 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:42 pm to
You forgot to add, more research is needed in the future, line.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18919 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:54 pm to
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Oh the Scientist will make some shite up, and then get a nice grant check handed to them. They just haven't concocted the angle yet.


1) You haven't the slightest clue how grants work
2) NASA scientists don't need grants

ETA: Thanks grammar Nazi's
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 2:00 pm
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46420 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:58 pm to
Do you want zombies, because this is how you get zombies...
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76772 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:02 pm to
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Scott's telomeres grew to be longer than his brother's.


telomere envy
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 1:26 pm to
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1) You haven't the slightest clew how grants work


"clew", cant blame that one on auto complete.
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:15 pm to
Epigenetics holds the key to an almost limitless range of medical possibilities. Just because we don't understand everything about it now doesn't mean we should just stop. If it wasn't for scientists like them doing a lot of the groundbreaking work, pharmaceutical companies would be selling leaches to suck out the demons making you sick
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 2:16 pm
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25928 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:19 pm to
Could this mean we would live longer in zero gravity?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96239 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:28 pm to
To be honest, I think the best evidence is that short term space flight is not associated with significant medical issues (regardless of this study) - when you consider the first guys to spend a month or so in space (Lovell and Borman famously shared 2 2-week space trips) are still alive 50 years later. Both are pushing 90.

Of course, the 1960s-era astronaut program pre-selected young, albeit bordering on middle-age, intelligent, educated men of the upper middle class, who were in exceptionally good health. So, it is not surprising that most of them, barring accident, have made it into their 80s and 90s at this point.

We always knew that gamma radiation results in cellular damage - just studies on commercial airline pilots and cabin crew members have revealed that. What is new is the confirmation these changes are occurring at the genetic level.

Interesting, if not shocking.



Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:38 pm to
so you would age slower in space than on a planets surface... Albert did suggest you could reverse aging at the speed of light.
He might be right again, maybe LSU can prove that one too.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:47 pm to
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The scientists are working to figure out what this means, and are running a separate study of telomere length in ten unrelated astronauts that, when completed in 2018, may shed more light on how spaceflight affects telomeres.


I think I speak for everyone when I say that we'll be waiting with bated breath.
Posted by TheLSUriot
Clear Lake, TX
Member since Oct 2007
1581 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:53 pm to
I have soooo much to say about this but so little time since I actually work.

First, let me clarify, 'NASA scientist' do need grants. They are commonly funded through a Headquarters program, the Human Research Program, or the National Space Biomedical Research Institute.

Genetic testing has been a sensitive subject to broach in NASA. Normal research proposals won't get funded for genetic testing of astronauts. The 1-year mission was special in that regard, along with the 1 year of LEO exposure and a ground-based twin to compare to.

Epigenetic changes are not genetic changes but simply a way to alter the regulation of the genetic information. We know spaceflight causes changes at the genetic level because radiation exposure increases and with increased ionizing radiation exposure come DNA damage. Unless the DNA repair process operates at 100% fidelity then mutations of various sorts will occur.
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