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re: Tuscaloosa PD releases body-cam footage for noise complaint

Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:58 am to
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20760 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:58 am to
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How about when a cop shows up at your door you show them the respect they deserve? What a novel concept


How about we hold cops to a higher standard and ask them not to break the law and assault some college kids who were well within their rights not to leave their apartment?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20876 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:58 am to
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The footage may not exist. That officer may have turned his body cam off before the actual fight.


That would hopefully be problematic for the officer.

quote:

But frick these kids for refusing to turn down their music after midnight 


Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 11:01 am to
I remember reading early on that this was the wrong apartment and that was why the kids were disagreeing with what the cop was trying to do.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20760 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 11:05 am to
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I remember reading early on that this was the wrong apartment and that was why the kids were disagreeing with what the cop was trying to do.


That's been the rumor but in the end, it doesn't matter. There's no loud music on in the video and none of the college kids arrested were cited with a noise complaint. A noise complaint also doesn't justify that cop block the door from being shut, then illegally come into a private residence, then assault the occupants those residents.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53174 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 11:09 am to
Use of that excess of a force was not justified regardless if the students were in the right or the wrong.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84970 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 11:10 am to
link to press conference?
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13980 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 11:11 am to
The cops shouldn't have to come 3 times for a noise complaint. The usual standard in Oxford is someone goes outside and talks to the cops. Cop says "If I have to come out here again then I'm shutting it down and checking ID's and looking for anything illegal. Kids say "Yes sir" and then the music down. Problem solved.

But obviously no reason for the violence on the residence. Completely uncalled for.
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 11:12 am
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20760 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 11:12 am to
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The cops shouldn't have to come 3 times for a noise complaint.


There is nothing that backs up the fact that they were there multiple times.

The Tuscaloosa Chief of Police said minutes ago he saw nothing in all of the footage that justified the cops entering the apartment like they did.
Posted by vuvuzela
Oregon
Member since Jun 2010
14663 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 11:17 am to
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There is nothing that backs up the fact that they were there multiple times.


Exactly. I SINCERELY doubt the cops visited this place 3 times for a noise complaint. If they did why did they not, I don't know, offer a citation on the second visit?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64986 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 11:22 am to
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The cops shouldn't have to come 3 times for a noise complaint.


That has never been proven to be true. That was just a rumor going around the day after and was never verified by the TPD.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84970 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 11:24 am to
Video in OP you can hear the cop say "after the 2nd time" He seemed to want to make it sound like it was the 3rd, but the way it was worded really meant twice.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 11:26 am to
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How about when a cop shows up at your door you show them the respect they deserve?


Nobody on this earth deserves respect. Respect is earned, I don't give a frick who you are.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20760 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 11:36 am to
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Exactly. I SINCERELY doubt the cops visited this place 3 times for a noise complaint. If they did why did they not, I don't know, offer a citation on the second visit?


Even if they did, it still doesn't justify what went down.

If this was some throw-down party that was keeping everyone awake and violating the noise ordinance...even after repeated attempts...then a citation should've been given. However, none of the kids arrested were charged with anything related to the noise. In fact, the video in the OP clearly shows the cops standing around trying to figure out what to charge them with.

What sort of undercuts the "visited the apartment multiple times" theory is the video of the cop arriving and asking where the apartment is.
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 11:42 am
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53174 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 11:55 am to
Twitter via @Fox6Kelvin.

The chief has stated the cops were in the wrong on entering the residence and the student did not have to come out of his apartment.
This post was edited on 11/18/15 at 11:58 am
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:23 pm to
Duh.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36589 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:28 pm to
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The footage may not exist. That officer may have turned his body cam off before the actual fight.


that does not seem suspicions
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 12:30 pm to
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cop shows up at your door you show them the respect they deserve?


Not everyone thinks cops deserve respect.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12930 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:27 pm to
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All the cop has to do is ask them to turn it down instead of acting like a hardass


They did. Twice before arriving for the third time at 3:30 to ask again. At which point Mr. Cool decides he is not going to step out of the apartment to even talk with the officer.

Again. frick them. They should have gotten their arse beat at age ten and not 20. Maybe this wouldn't be a problem today for the cops to deal with.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12930 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:29 pm to
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Check out the guy that is bitter he didn't get to go to college.


I went. But likely not for as long as you did.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12930 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 2:35 pm to
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Seems like they just needed a ticket for a noise violation. Would have saved them a lot of trouble.


That's how the cops should have handled. Wrote them a new violation for every five minutes they refused to turn it down. But they didn't and at least one is probably going to be fired.
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