re: Trump announces that US has bombed multiple Iranian nuclear sites

So?

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I do, this regime should have been toppled years ago.

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So…. Missiles and bombs of nuclear and industrial sites with no strategic support of a political hand off will “topple” the regime?

Not happening

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but their ignorance is lessening with each line they read.

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Generous of you to assume they actually comprehend what they sound out.

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So…. Missiles and bombs of nuclear and industrial sites with no strategic support of a political hand off will “topple” the regime?

Not happening

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I didn't say this action would topple the regime, I just said the regime should have been toppled years ago.

Making sure they don't obtain nuclear weapons is the next best thing.

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I didn't say this action would topple the regime, I just said the regime should have been toppled years ago. Making sure they don't obtain nuclear weapons is the next best thing.

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Fair enough. I’m struggling with the game plan here only because we are joining the booming of a country and delaying their ability.

Key word is delaying… it’s like trying to eradicate bamboo from your yard. You can chop it down but it keeps spreading/returning.

Rinse/repeat

There wasn't a Palestinian state, true, however, that doesn't mean there was Palestinian land. Tons of ethnic groups didn't have countries before the arrival of European colonization. The Maori never formed their own state, but we wouldn't say the British were justified in taking their land.

There were people (i.e. Palestinians) already living there before the Jews arrived in the 19th century. People who had livelihoods, owned farms, cattle, and livestock. When they say "Free Palestine", they mean not in the context of a sovereign nation state but rather the independence of the Palestinian homeland.

A homeland doesn't mean there has to be a sovereign state on top of it. New Zealand is the homeland of the Maori although there was never a Maori state. When people support for Maori independence from the British, it is in the context of the freeing of their homeland where the Maori lived, toiled, had livelihoods, not because there was a literal Maori state in history.

The fight for freedom doesn't always revolve around the concept of a literal sovereign country. Ideas such as having a state as a representative of a nation's sovereignty are modern recent inventions. For most of human history, most people considered the land they lived on as the definition of having a "homeland" i.e. a place where they belong to.


Enough education to you plebs for me today. Have a good one fellas

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Fair enough. I’m struggling with the game plan here only because we are joining the booming of a country and delaying their ability.

Key word is delaying… it’s like trying to eradicate bamboo from your yard. You can chop it down but it keeps spreading/returning.

Rinse/repeat

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Probably the only good option really.

I prefer to bomb their nuclear sites every so often than get into Iraq 2.0 in a much larger country.

Personally, I think we should just close our borders and only worry about America but that isn't really realistic in this day and time.

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Personally, I think we should just close our borders and only worry about America

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Amen

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I prefer to bomb their nuclear sites every so often than get into Iraq 2.0 in a much larger country.

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Practically speaking you are probably right. Again, I’m frustrated bc we had a diplomatic-first approach in place I would like to think could’ve been improved over time to prevent.

Is what it is I suppose