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re: True or false: Violent, public, televised executions for convicted murderers

Posted on 9/27/23 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
16578 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 3:56 pm to
No executed criminal ever committed another crime.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23373 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 3:58 pm to
Louisiana has only executed 3 people since 2000
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
21220 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 4:44 pm to
Works for me
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23120 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

quote:
Drastic times require drastic measures.


What drastic times? The 70s when crime was twice as bad as now?


Well, we are getting there.
Posted by BarCo49
Alabama
Member since Apr 2021
273 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:25 pm to
It's the certainty of punishment, not the severity, that deters crime. I don't need to see it, just know it was administered as prescribed by law.
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8546 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:32 pm to
True. And for life sentences, make the immediate family foot the bill, instead of the American taxpayer.
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

hang ‘em high

by the neck
with a noose
until they are dead, dead, dead…
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

How many wrongfully convicted innocents executed are acceptable when we start executing many more people?

you think first time offenders are on death row
when a perpetrator has previously been arrested 17 or 30 times
the muthafreeka is guilty of something
bjorn cyborg gets it…
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 7:52 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48706 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

Kill them in a brutal and swift fashion as punishment first.


I don’t see how any reasonable person who has ever been summoned to jury duty can hold this opinion.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
40977 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:14 pm to
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If you're going to televise it, go ahead and turn the murderer loose in a big maze. 5 minutes later, release a pack of pissed off Presa Canarios.

If they murderer can make it out of the maze before the dogs find him, pardon.

Would make for great betting pools.

Didn't they make a movie along those lines?

Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

And for life sentences, make the immediate family foot the bill, instead of the American taxpayer.


Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
17900 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 12:10 am to
I’m down for a trial run. What we do now sure the hell ain’t working.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11407 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 7:07 am to
quote:

you think first time offenders are on death row
when a perpetrator has previously been arrested 17 or 30 times
the muthafreeka is guilty of something
bjorn cyborg gets it…




Our justice system does not operate on "guilty of something" thank the Christ. Operating on "guilty of something" allows criminals to rely on others being punished for their misdeeds.

Here is an equivalent idea to "guilty of something". Why don't we simply have a lottery system and if your number comes up the state executes you? After all, you have been a human being all your life, human beings commit crimes, you have to be guilty of something.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
25655 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 7:12 am to
i'm gonna go ahead and assume you are against abortion b/c of the sanctity of life, though, right?



Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
13818 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 7:17 am to
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This. I did a research paper in college on the death penalty being used as a deterrent. I went in thinking I’d easily find evidence that it was. It was actually the opposite. It has a statistically zero effect on violent crime rates.


I fully support the death penalty, but it has zero deterrent. Murderers and rapists have no impulse control.

Further, the erosion of society is due to soft on crime policies that have enabled the proliferation of petty and property crimes. Harsher punishment for these crimes is necessary. I fully support life sentences for career (petty) criminals that just aren't able to follow the rule of law.
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 7:18 am
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11407 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 7:18 am to
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Rome fed people to beasts.
Burned them, fought them, crucified them.

Rome Never ran out of criminals.


Anyone who thinks tossing MORE Americans in jail and executing more Americans will do anything to reduce crimes is delusional. Again, we already have more people incarcerated than any but 6 nations on the planet. The nations which execute the most prisoners every year never varies year to year. Saudi Arabia has been in the top 5 nations prone to executing its citizens for about 80 years, as long as such stats have been kept. In 80 years there has been a similar number of capital crimes committed. Execution is not a deterrent.
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
3821 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:08 am to
Methods of Execution: SFW
Hanging 3 1 state (has lethal injection as primary method, abolished death penalty prospectively)
[New Hampshire]*

*New Hampshire abolished the death penalty but the repeal may not apply retroactively, leaving a prisoner on death row facing possible execution.

Firing Squad 3 5 states (in South Carolina, electrocution is the primary method; the other states have lethal injection as primary method) [Mississippi], [Oklahoma], [Utah], [South Carolina], [Idaho]
NEWS & DEVELOPMENTS
EXECUTIONS OVERVIEW

Posted by El Tigre Grande
Bayou Self
Member since Jan 2006
2589 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:25 am to
quote:

when a perpetrator has previously been arrested 17 or 30 times

seems you missed this part sport...
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:35 am to
quote:

you think first time offenders are on death row
you think recidivism is required for a death sentence?

OP didn’t reference a recidivist requirement for the violent, public executions.
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 8:42 am
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11407 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:43 am to
quote:

quote:
when a perpetrator has previously been arrested 17 or 30 times

seems you missed this part sport..


No, sport, I didn't miss it, it is part and parcel of the misunderstanding of what the CJ is supposed to be about. We do not toss people in jail and execute people in this nation for being "guilty of something" no matter how mant times they have been arrested...we imprison people for specific crimes, not on the basis that there are indications they are "guilty of something". Doing what is being suggested is a good way for innocent people to wind up in jail, sport. I get it, ya'll are terrified of crime and willing to swap security for freedom....
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