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re: Tropical Storm Nicholas - Flash Flood Watch for South Louisiana

Posted on 9/14/21 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18510 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 3:44 pm to
Water has risen 3” since 10 am here in Maurepas.

Been raining like a SOB.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71922 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 3:46 pm to
The HRRR isn't favoring any rotation/training bands and is basically treating it like a front and moving it through at a steady, but slow pace.

The NAM, though, is accounting for that rotation and still has the possibility of training bands later on this evening. Looking at current radar, I tend to favor that solution. The HRRR seems to be struggling with the decoupling, as has been the trend with it for a while now with this system.
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
10109 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 3:52 pm to
Go on..... Specifically point coupee and ebr
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
9236 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 3:52 pm to
State offices closed in EBR Wednesday. Does this have any effect historically in ebr schools also closing?
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82714 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

If what I think is going to play out actually does, with the really heavy stuff closer to the coast, teachers are going to have to do some educating.

What does this mean exactly?
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
10109 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

State offices closed in EBR Wednesday. Does this have any effect historically in ebr schools also closing?


Historically speaking, yes
Posted by trilltiger
LA
Member since Nov 2007
2685 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:15 pm to
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Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33410 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:23 pm to
I didnt get to sleep at a Holiday Inn last night, because they cancelled my reservation for some evacuees, so help me understand this . . . .

Does the path of the storm matter at all in this case, if the convection is being sheared away from of it?
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:25 pm to
The heaviest rains remain along Hwy 90 and while there will be some flash flooding north of there, I expect the biggest impacts to the south.

So schools should be open, unless Im wrong.
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8692 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:28 pm to
Nola is projected to get 6-10” from tonight and tomorrow?

Radar shows Nola is almost in the clear
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
10109 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:28 pm to
With schools you never know but if state offices are really closing, schools usually follow. I hope they can go to school. For me wife's sanity
Posted by shaquilleoatmeal
Member since Jun 2021
961 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:30 pm to
Schools should be hesitant to close because they just missed a whole week or more. Schools only have so many “weather” days so they’ll eventually have to make those days up.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Nola is projected to get 6-10” from tonight and tomorrow?

Radar shows Nola is almost in the clear



It's going to refire tonight.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24816 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

It's going to refire tonight.


What about Lafayette? It shows rain, but I don’t see it.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:39 pm to


quote:

Summary...Heavy rainfall associated with Tropical Storm Nicholas
will continue to plague portions of the Central Gulf Coast through
this evening. Rain rates of 1-2"/hr are likely, which could
produce 1-3" of rain with local amounts to 5". Flash flooding is
likely.


Discussion...Tropical Storm Nicholas was located at 1800 UTC about
30 miles SE of Houston, TX moving ENE at 7mph. The center of
circulation is clearly evident on the regional radar mosaic, with
heavy rainfall almost exclusively confined east and well east of
the center. Recently, some narrow convergence bands had developed
east of Galveston Bay with heavy rain lifting again into the far
Upper Texas Coast, but otherwise most of the rainfall was east of
Vermilion Bay and across southeast Louisiana where recent rainfall
rate estimates from KLIX were as high as 2"/hr. This has led to
CREST unit streamflow measurements above 700 cfs/smi, and flash
flooding is continuing across the area.

As T.S. Nicholas continues to drift eastward through this evening,
heavy rain will persist near the Central Gulf Coast. Guidance has
trended a bit eastward with the heaviest rainfall
, and this
appears to be due to some drier continental air which is advecting
around Nicholas and is clearly evident in CIRA LPW fields. East of
this drier air, the thermodynamics remain extremely favorable for
heavy rainfall
with PWs of 2.1 to 2.3 inches on the special 18Z
U/A soundings from KLIX and KLCH, respectively. Additionally,
freezing levels are near 16,000 ft, suggesting efficient warm rain
processes. This is leading to widespread rainfall rates of around
1"/hr, and the HREF probabilities indicate an increasing
likelihood for 2-3"/hr this evening, focused in southeast
Louisiana.


Despite drier air approaching from the west, there is likely to be
a window of significant overlap of forcing and moisture to drive
excessive rainfall through this evening. A pronounced inflow band
continues to extend into the Gulf of Mexico on the leading edge of
this drier air, while an effective coastal/warm front lies near
the coast of Louisiana at the nose of the WAA/LLJ serves as an
additional focus for low-level convergence.
As Nicholas shifts
eastward, 925-850mb flow should increase out of the S/SW to more
impressively shift moisture and instability northward, while at
the same time the S/SE flow from the central Gulf intensifies.
This could produce a situation where the most intense moisture
advection within the primary inflow band begins to isentropically
ascend the slow moving effective front, leading to an axis of
continuous 2"+/hr rainfall. The exact placement of this still
varies within the various high-res guidance, but the trend has
been to focus over far southern Louisiana
, with recent runs of the
HRRR all shifting SE, to be more aligned with the CONEST and ARW2.
Where this occurs, additional rainfall in excess of 5" is
possible, with 1-3" expected elsewhere across the region. Flash
flooding is likely.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:41 pm to
Take that Rob Perillo.
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
10109 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:48 pm to
Nope dont like that map or those hourly rates.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82714 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:50 pm to
I just checked the radar on my weather channel app, it seems all the rain has cleared out
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71922 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

As Nicholas shifts
eastward, 925-850mb flow should increase out of the S/SW to more
impressively shift moisture and instability northward, while at
the same time the S/SE flow from the central Gulf intensifies.

This is the player that will re-fire the convection/rain off of the coast and drag it Northward throughout the night. NOLA East to around Gulport could be the bullseye for that rain. Slidell getting in that little bit of a dry slot for the past couple hours will hopefully help them. Gulport needs a break right now, though.
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
9236 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

I just checked the radar on my weather channel app, it seems all the rain has cleared out


Apparently it’s coming back tonight. We shall see
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