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re: Trial lawyers of the OT
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:46 pm to Mud_Till_May
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:46 pm to Mud_Till_May
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:00 pm to Mud_Till_May
If the defense cites the bossier cop shooting the crazy lady with scissors I say stabber walks.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:08 pm to Mud_Till_May
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Edit: Also if you are the defense attorney, why wouldn’t you object all the time and how do you deal with people who are idiots?
Just for general edumacation: we object when appropriate *and* necessary. You can’t just object to everything; the code of evidence exists for a reason. The judge can, and will, hold you in contempt for making frivolous objections just to frick with opposing counsel. And even if it is objectionable, we will generally let inconsequential shite slide, like minor leading questions, unimportant hearsay, etc. Jurors *hate* objections, from both sides. They feel like the objecting party is trying to hide something important from them, even if it’s concerning minor crap no one should care about.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:08 pm to Mud_Till_May
Every time you start a thread, you get trashier and trashier.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:18 pm to Joshjrn
Just for general edumacation: we object when appropriate *and* necessary. You can’t just object to everything; the code of evidence exists for a reason. The judge can, and will, hold you in contempt for making frivolous objections just to frick with opposing counsel. And even if it is objectionable, we will generally let inconsequential shite slide, like minor leading questions, unimportant hearsay, etc. Jurors *hate* objections, from both sides. They feel like the objecting party is trying to hide something important from them.
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Just for general edumacation: we object when appropriate *and* necessary. You can’t just object to everything; the code of evidence exists for a reason. The judge can, and will, hold you in contempt for making frivolous objections just to frick with opposing counsel. And even if it is objectionable, we will generally let inconsequential shite slide, like minor leading questions, unimportant hearsay, etc. Jurors *hate* objections, from both sides. They feel like the objecting party is trying to hide something important from them.
Thank you
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:19 pm to iAmBatman
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Every time you start a thread, you get trashier and trashier
A million more and I’ll be on your level
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:28 pm to Mud_Till_May
Dude tell me you aren't on the jury
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:33 pm to Mud_Till_May
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Im not
Based on the fact that you claimed to already know the facts, I figured it was unlikely. Only reason I re-engaged
Feel free to fire away anything else you’re curious about. For being the damned cornerstone of western civilization, the average person knows frick all nothing about the legal system, particularly the criminal justice system.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:48 pm to Joshjrn
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Feel free to fire away anything else you’re curious about. For being the damned cornerstone of western civilization, the average person knows frick all nothing about the legal system, particularly the criminal justice system.
The second witness that was called today was a younger really well dressed woman. She comes out and tells the court that she was in fact homeless, using cocaine and engaged in prostitution. She then goes on to talk about how people go by nick names such as shorty and bo bo.
Are you ever surprised by things that people say on the witness stand?
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:53 pm to Mud_Till_May
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Are you ever surprised by things that people say on the witness stand?
Incessantly. Lay witnesses are unpredictable on the best of days, even if well prepped. An unprepared witness is like playing Russian roulette. It comes down to how many times you have to pull the trigger.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:05 pm to Joshjrn
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Incessantly. Lay witnesses are unpredictable on the best of days, even if well prepped. An unprepared witness is like playing Russian roulette. It comes down to how many times you have to pull the trigger.
It also occurred to me today that if this guy was found not guilty, whats to keep him from coming after the witnesses that testified against him? I finally understand why people don't say anything to cops.
edit: Do any of you ever shake your head and say why am I wasting my time on earth listening to this?
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:07 pm to Mud_Till_May
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It also occurred to me today that if this guy was found not guilty, whats to keep him from coming after the witnesses that testified against him? I finally understand why people don't say anything to cops.
I mean, it’s illegal, but that obviously only goes so far. With that said, in my experience, witness retaliation is fairly rare.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:11 pm to Mud_Till_May
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edit: Do any of you ever shake your head and say why am I wasting my time on earth listening to this?
I’m not certain I understand your question, but assuming I do, the answer is yes, the average person is an idiot
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:19 pm to Joshjrn
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I’m not certain I understand your question, but assuming I do, the answer is yes, the average person is an idiot
The only thing I didn't like about the defense is that she did speak loud enough and talked to fast. When I try and sell something, I slow my voice down and talk louder. I guess both the prosecutor and defense are selling their side of the story.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:21 pm to Joshjrn
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Just for general edumacation: we object when appropriate *and* necessary. You can’t just object to everything; the code of evidence exists for a reason. The judge can, and will, hold you in contempt for making frivolous objections just to frick with opposing counsel. And even if it is objectionable, we will generally let inconsequential shite slide, like minor leading questions, unimportant hearsay, etc. Jurors *hate* objections, from both sides. They feel like the objecting party is trying to hide something important from them, even if it’s concerning minor crap no one should care about.
Is this a common strategy???...OJ lawyers objected to everything... seems like a good idea if you fighting for your client’s life...could anything be considered inconsequential???
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:22 pm to Mud_Till_May
Being a good trial attorney requires a rather large set of skills that are all difficult to master individually. Mastering them all as a group is extremely difficult. There are tons of very good attorneys, but only a very small percentage of them would I trust to stand before a jury on my behalf.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:24 pm to lepdagod
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Is this a common strategy???...OJ lawyers objected to everything... seems like a good idea if you fighting for your client’s life...could anything be considered inconsequential???
Unless you’re an attorney, you’re likely in no position to say whether they “objected to everything”, because you have no idea what is actually objectionable.
I’m not talking about letting in evidence; I’m talking about letting minor, ticky tack procedural crap slide. Fundamental difference.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:27 pm to Joshjrn
Is your copy of black's law dictionary still a doorstop?
Can policemen arrest me if I don't agree to the social contract?
Can policemen arrest me if I don't agree to the social contract?
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:30 pm to Parmen
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Is your copy of black's law dictionary still a doorstop?
Collecting dust on a lovely book case
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Can policemen arrest me if I don't agree to the social contract?
Unfortunately :/
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