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re: Train vs Vehicle Accident Logic, make it make sense

Posted on 8/25/24 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
33847 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 3:06 pm to
We need my fellow badger who I believe was a train engineer.
This post was edited on 8/25/24 at 3:07 pm
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4843 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 3:11 pm to
I've been an engineer for 20 years.

No, trains can't stop within 100 yards, but it's typically overblown how far it takes them to stop. Also, the impact of a vehicle makes no difference whatsoever.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102210 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 3:13 pm to
Theres a study out there somewhere that found the human brain doesn't process something that large as being fast. So people always misjudge the time and distance.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7140 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 3:18 pm to
I think the rule of thumb is that it is about 1 mile to stop a 60 mph train with emergency brakes. A lo?t lf those crash videos you see going through cities aren't hauling it 60 mph in the videos and they slow down a lot sooner.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14518 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 3:21 pm to
Do Diesel electrics reverse their traction motors and/or use brakes ?
This post was edited on 8/25/24 at 3:22 pm
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4843 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Do Diesel electrics reverse their traction motors and/or use brakes ?


Both
Posted by marcus3000
Member since Jan 2018
885 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 3:34 pm to
It was surprisingly gory and low budget, half staged scenes and half industry film. There was one (staged) scene where a kid wrapped his hand around a track and it showed one of the train wheels tri-secting it from the top. Multiple scenes, from what was apparently industry footage, of cars/trucks getting T-boned from sitting on the track.

It was meant to scare you from messing around the railroad tracks, and as I've never forgotten it after only seeing it once, it worked lol.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65908 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

train tracks are where we keep the trains

Yes! Or what is otherwise known as the "Shark/Ocean Rule". I'm disappointed in myself for not thinking to say that. Good job, grand.
Posted by PhysicsGuy
Member since Apr 2024
50 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 4:49 pm to
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That used to be true in the steam engine days. Around the 50s they developed a much better breaking system but allow and even magnify the rumors that it takes a long time as a way to keep insurance rates low.


The railroads self insure. This is also non-sense.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
7328 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 5:19 pm to
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My wonder is how train vs vehicle accidents happen at all?
Hey it’s not my fault the train swerved to hit me!
Posted by Radio One
On the banks of the Wabash
Member since Sep 2023
4650 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

It was surprisingly gory and low budget, half staged scenes and half industry film. There was one (staged) scene where a kid wrapped his hand around a track and it showed one of the train wheels tri-secting it from the top. Multiple scenes, from what was apparently industry footage, of cars/trucks getting T-boned from sitting on the track. It was meant to scare you from messing around the railroad tracks, and as I've never forgotten it after only seeing it once, it worked lol.



Awesome! Thanks!
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