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By Aneeta Bhole In New Jersey For Dailymail.Com

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I need a Bhole

Back in the day every school that I attended had either teachers (or many times coaches) who would put the fear of God in you for acting out. They may have done it once but that was generally the last time. But parents back then were much more likely to support the teachers than the unruly students.

I worried all year but my daughter is pretty head strong and she dealt with it great. She had outside dance, cheered at school and had lots of friends outside of cheer team. The first trip they went on and stayed at hotel, they treated her pretty bad. Gladly, the beginning was the worst and they gradually left her alone bc they couldn’t get to her. The girls were fast sexual and more advanced. My daughter was probably one of the only ones that wasn’t sexual active. They made fun of her. 3/4 girls in her class transferred to private school bc of the abuse. One girl attempted suicide. Girls are much worse than boys. It’s really sad. When I see those bullies now I really don’t like them. Parents did nothing. Thought they were angels. We never told school. We handled and dealt with it. We were at a good school also. It can happen anywhere and rich, entitled white girls are the worse. Good luck.

Exactly. We had coaches who would straighten you out and parents backed them. Try that now you would be fired. Jackie Slater taught at Meridian HS in Mississippi after his NFL career. 6’7” 320lbs - he said kids would cuss him out and want to try him. Idiots. He quit and moved on.

Meridian HS is a war zone now. Awful.

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. But parents back then were much more likely to support the teachers than the unruly students.

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Administrations are terrified to expel kids due to funding and social justice mobs.

I taught in an alternative school, kids had to sign a contract. When they broke the contract, it was automatic expulsion.

Until it wasn't, and the kids realized there was no one backing the teachers. That's an impossible situation.

Exactly. You are on your own when you break up fights as teachers. The school system tells them this. Men grabbing girls fighting is a whole other ballgame. Sexual innuendo gets throw around then.

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Simple solution, but true believers will never give up their gubment schools.

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It's a solution that fixes nothing. Once all the kids that cause the issues go to the charter schools with their vouchers, then what?

That's what is happening here in Arizona, where we do have school choice. The charters are almost all equally bad if not worse with fighting and bullying, because they have worse employees (which is saying a lot given how many teachers have left teaching in general the past 5-6 years).

Since charters pay far worse and don't pay into state retirement the only people who work there are teachers who can't work elsewhere like teach for America or foreigner teachers trying to move to the US. The few good teachers that work at charters typically are only there because their children go to the school.

The only thing that will fix this situation is fixing funding issues (tying funding to butts in the seats gives admin incentive to keep shitty kids in schools) and fixing the legal issues (douchebag kids with IEPs can't be allowed to use the IEP as a shield/get out of jail free card). These kids that do these beatings and bullying have almost always been reported by teachers numerous times with nothing being done.


Admin too scared to get sued or too lazy to do what they need to do to get kids out of school (manifestations) is what leads to these horrible kids hanging around schools causing problems. School psychologists generally being terrible and lazy as hell also plays a big role in situations where the admin aren't the problem too.

Literally none of this is fixed by charters.

And on a random side note, I've been a high school teacher in title one schools for ten years, and I've never come across a fight I could break up (and there have been plenty of fights at my schools). Most take place during lunch or at a random place on campus, so it really comes down to campus security most of the time. 99% of the time if a fight happens in a classroom it's because you have a crap teacher that can't control their classroom.

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Such a pretty girl. So sad.

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Had her whole life in front of her. Was blessed with beauty and was treated horrible in life. This is sad. Happens to much.