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re: Today Is The 30th Anniversary Of The Battle of Mogadishu. AKA Blackhawk Down
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:32 am to 14&Counting
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:32 am to 14&Counting
I don't know what it is about the movie, but there's something about it that is so emotionally painful that I have not been able to watch but maybe the first third of it and can't push forward. Mental block, I suppose. Anger, too, that our men were put in that situation.
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Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:32 am to Beef Tips
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One of the most important movies ever made.
Pisses me off every time I watch it
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:37 am to 14&Counting
Damn, I stayed up late watching the first hour of that. Thanks for sharing 
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:33 am to StTiger
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I feel anger after seeing what they did to the bodies of the soldiers.
The same people and their descendants are now “migrants” to Europe. And it’s going about as well as one might expect.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:36 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Yep. I knew several guys lost that day. I have a burning hatred for Mark Miley for leaving men to die on the battlefield while he looked for a safer ingress route for the QRF. He was in command of the 10th Mtn which was the QRF.
I didn’t know that. That explains a whole fricking lot about the state of our military now.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:26 am to 14&Counting
I remember seeing an episode of 60 minutes where they went back in 2013 and recovered what was left of the wreckage. Amazing that it was still there.
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The memory of Corporal Smith and the other men who died is what David Snelson and Alisha Ryu say they see in the remnants of Super 6-1.
This past spring, after careful negotiations with local clans they were able to start digging out the wreckage. They were anxious to get to it before the Somalis went ahead with a plan to build a road over the crash site.
The earth gave up one piece of twisted metal after another. It was surprising how much was there. Few people realized that for 20 years since it fell, Super 6-1 had been there, in that same place, where it went down.
Because of the threat from al Qaeda, it was too dangerous for David and Alisha to be at the site, and they were waiting for the wreckage to be brought to their home in Mogadishu.
Alisha Ryu: I saw the truck pull in and I saw what appeared to be at least three of the rotor, of the blades and I was, "wow.' I said, 'That can't be."
David Snelson: I was amazed.
Lara Logan: You had no idea?
Alisha Ryu: No idea. Had absolutely no idea, it was just, absolute shock.
They kept the wreckage safe behind their high walls and heavy security.
This massive part is the main rotor which still dripped clean hydraulic fluid when they dug it out.
David Snelson: I don't want to lift this up too much because it's really corroded and really fragile.
And these are the foot pedals used by one of the Super 6-1 pilots as he struggled to control the helicopter in the final seconds of his life.
It had taken them almost a year and most of their life savings, but in June they were finally able to package up the wreckage and send it on its way.
With the help of the U.S. Military, Super 6-1 made it to Fayetteville, N.C., just a month and a half ago. And this is where it will stay.
On display at the Airborne & Special Operations Museum.
Norm Hooten: I think it's coming back to where it belongs.
Lara Logan: And that matters?
Norm Hooten: And that matters. To anybody that was there that night, it matters.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:35 am to 14&Counting
3-4 MOAB's would have done wonders for that place.
Today isnt too late to send them a lovely surprise.
Today isnt too late to send them a lovely surprise.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:42 am to Rex Feral
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I like to think that we get involved in the Rwanda Genocide if the Somalia mission doesn’t go to shite
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You're 100% correct. The Battle of Mogadishu changed US foreign policy for years.
I firmly believe we could have saved a lot of lives in Rwanda, and that would have been an honorable mission for the US to undertake.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:49 am to GetCocky11
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I firmly believe we could have saved a lot of lives in Rwanda, and that would have been an honorable mission for the US to undertake.
We'll never know because Clinton was too big of a wuss to do anything after the TV images from Mog.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:56 am to 14&Counting
Finished part two last night. Incredible. So rare to here a Delta guy talk. Hell even to hear one admit they are/were Delta is not common
Posted on 10/4/23 at 11:04 am to 14&Counting
blows my mind that 1 it was already 30 years ago and B not more people were held responsible for that decision...
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:10 pm to Hou_Lawyer
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Still remember my uncle (Vietnam - Army Ranger LRRP) saying after he saw the movie that it was the most realistic one he had ever seen and that he could’ve killed more “skinnys” with a .22.
He very well may be right. It's been a long time since I read Mark Bowden's book, but I'm pretty sure the ammo used by the US soldiers that day was a part of their problem.
Apparently they had a lot of armor-piercing rounds loaded that didn't break apart on impact with humans, and combined with all of the Somalis being hopped up on their local drug plant, there were a lot of guys who took 2-3 rounds clean through in non-lethal spots, and just kept on coming.
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:19 pm to BaconGrease
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Norm Hooten: I think it's coming back to where it belongs.
Lara Logan: And that matters?
What a brainless fricking bitch.
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