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TigersSEC2010
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To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
Watching LivePD, they've come across several people who have been brought back to life at least once, twice, even three times before, only to keep ODing and needing Narcan.

I understand we can't just let them die. I'm curious as to what point do you believe society has reached the end of its obligation to the addict and they're on their own?

Repeatedly saving people who are only going to OD again the next day certainly seems like a waste of resources.


arkiebrian
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
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I understand we can't just let them die.

Seems like they want to die.


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danfraz
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
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I understand we can't just let them die.




Why?


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deeprig9
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
Human compassion and dignity. Foreign concept to you?


Walt OReilly
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
We aren’t

frickem


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ElJefe686
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
Focusing on treatment and rehabilitation would be a wonderful thing. Those people need help, not a cell mate.

Look up how Portugal drastically reduced hard drug use. It is intriguing.


LSUTigersVCURams
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
We need to just start loading these people onto cattle cars


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TigersSEC2010
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Member since Jan 2010
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
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Human compassion and dignity. Foreign concept to you?


It shouldn't be society's job to repeatedly save someone who is seemingly determined to die.


SportsGuyNOLA
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New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
We should let drug addicts and other self-destructive types eliminate themselves. I don't see the point in trying to prevent the inevitable.

It's a waste of time and resources to try to save these leeches.


SlowFlowPro
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
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Human compassion and dignity. Foreign concept to you?

it's not compassion anymore if you keep doing it

that's enabling self-destruction


deeprig9
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
I disagree. I think helping people is good.


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danfraz
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
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Human compassion and dignity. Foreign concept to you?



Intervention is doing some heroin triangle thing near Atlanta. You should check it out and see the choices people make.

Freedom works both ways. Free to live and free to die.


fr33manator
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
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Here’s an idea. You get caught on heroin once, you get sent to the gladiators arena.

You can fight and, if victorious, you get your next fix, or you can choose to go to rehab.

We fund rehab efforts with the money gained from the gladiator battles
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Sao
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University Park, TX
Member since Jun 2009
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
We've bitched and moaned to save others from drunk drivers for decades. This isn't different, in fact, it's much more certain of an outcome.
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el Gaucho
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
I think we should adopt the phillipines model of drug rehabilitation


KiwiHead
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Member since Jul 2014
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
Decriminalization would not work with the voters in the US overall and Incarceration, Inc. would be fighting it all the way. We like jails in this country, it's big business.

However, for the most part, if you talk to cops, especially in big cities, they really don't arrest addicts who are holding a personal supply if they are not committing other crimes....it's a waste of their resources.


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SCLibertarian
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
As someone who has battled with addiction (not heroin), there is almost zero chance an opiate addict can stay clean without a minimum 90-day inpatient rehab. And unless we do what Portugal did and divert all our resources from prosecuting drug addicts to compelling them to enter rehab for a certain period of time, opiate addicts will continue to either OD or go to jail.
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fr33manator
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?

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I think we should adopt the phillipines model of drug rehabilitation


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KiwiHead
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Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
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Intervention is doing some heroin triangle thing near Atlanta. You should check it out and see the choices people make.

Freedom works both ways. Free to live and free to die.


Here is the problem, though, heroin addicts are not "free" they are slaves to the opiate. If you've ever dealt with one it's really sad....when they are high they want rehab, but the second they come down, all they want is that high and the junk. Their brains are screwed up.


Sao
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University Park, TX
Member since Jun 2009
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re: To what extent is society morally obligated to save heroin addicts?
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SCLibertarian


Tell your story. Maybe it will help the let them die crowd to understand it's ok not to be a-holes.


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