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re: To my fellow paratroopers, past and present...

Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:09 pm to
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DisplacedBuckeye
Get out of my thread you damn Jarhead
Posted by namvet6566
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:11 pm to


Worked with 101 Airborne in Vietnam…..great group
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:14 pm to
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He ain't done shite. He doesn't have a CIB.


I always felt like the CIB was a little biased since you can engage or be engaged by the enemy without being infantry or spec-ops. They rectified that about 20 years ago with the CAR.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:22 pm to
Damn you
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:27 pm to
I actually do have to leave, though.

Heading down to Bozeman to grab some steaks and sausage.

Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:28 pm to
We need to get together when you come down to Florida my leatherneck brother
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:29 pm to
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Would make life pretty difficult once the paratroopers got on the ground and they had no medical staff to support their follow on operations.


I don't get the big deal about him trying to make a distinction about Airborne. It isn't like the distinction between a tabbed vs scrolled Ranger.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:35 pm to
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I don't get the big deal about him trying to make a distinction about Airborne. It isn't like the distinction between a tabbed vs scrolled Ranger.
I have no idea what is the point he is trying to make. It gives me the impression that he has never read an MTO&E in his life.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:35 pm to
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Airborne units are legit. I agree basic airborne school is more of a rights of passage tho. I’m a “five jump chump” as well. NEVER had to jump again after airborne school.






The easiest thing about being a paratrooper is jump school. It's everything that happens afterwards that's challenging.

One of my coworkers showed up to his unit. Fresh out of jump school he rolled out for his first run with his unit. He told the guy next to him "this isn't bad". He said the guy said "just wait". They ran 13 miles for PT that day.

This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 3:49 pm to
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The easiest thing about being a paratrooper is jump school. It's everything that happens afterwards that's challenging.

Obtuse1 would probably back me up on this, but the hardest part of being a paratrooper is the "time" between jumps. In jump school, all five of your jumps are done in (roughly) a four day period. However, when you are on status you can be (up to) three months between jumps (not often, but theoretically). And between those jumps you have a lot of time to think about what could go wrong (which is a lot). And that is where (very naturally) the fear begins.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:03 pm to
We jumped a lot. It got to the point I wasn't the least bit scared. I deployed for Desert Shield / Storm. When I got back my first jump was door position (Hollywood) and I was terrified. I told the jumpmaster to grab my harness until he saw the green light. He just laughed and said "no problem".

It was a great jump
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:11 pm to
So, you have never tripped and fallen as you were shuffling out of the door?

La de da da. Boys, we have here an Airborne Soldier trained in Ballet for balance.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:16 pm to
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We jumped a lot. It got to the point I wasn't the least bit scared.
Not sure why, but I did not get to the point where I did not have nightmares/the shakes the night before until I got around thirty jumps. For whatever reason, it became much easier for me at that point.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:18 pm to
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So, you have never tripped and fallen as you were shuffling out of the door?

With CE? Masstac? Yeah, I had some slippage and stumbling. Never a fall though (thankfully).

But damn baw, they were Hollywood off of a ramp in daylight. There was no excuse for that crap
Posted by No8Easy2
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:20 pm to
Yup agreed, I was at Pendleton for most of my service so weather wasn’t an issue but if we got in a jump every other month it seemed
The waiting always sucked
shite this thread got me remembering my cherry jump, mass tac with the 101st at night @600’
Probably looked liked one of those guys in that vid
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:26 pm to
Amazing Sir.. Thank You.

Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2758 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:36 pm to
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Not sure why, but I did not get to the point where I did not have nightmares/the shakes the night before until I got around thirty jumps. For whatever reason, it became much easier for me at that point.


Everything was fine and dandy until I jumped a 141 onto Panther DZ at Ft. Drum. I was jumping the right door and for some reason I fell forward and hit the rear edge of the door and went out backwards.

When I was finally able to look up my suspension lines were so twisted my chute looked like a Dixie cup. It was open and I went to bicycling like I was in the tour de France. About that time I hear "slip away". The jumper out the other door is in a similar situation as I am. I think the plane must have jigged sideways or something.

It was an exhibition jump for some politician so we were jumping at about 1000 feet. I was able to get a full canopy by the time I hit the ground. After that, I was a bit apprehensive.

I will say this, God loves a paratrooper. I think it's because we truly understand what faith is. I've seen a few times where folks should have died and didn't.

I'll post a pic later. My squad leader broke his pelvis on a jump. My dad was a the jump and caught a pic of his malfunction.





We didn't think he was that high when his chute folded up. Years later I saw these pics and realized how high he was.

He said someone got under him and "stole his air"
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
125811 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:42 pm to
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eitek1
CSB

Were you in the 82nd or in the 10th Mountain LRS?

I was the commander of C-210th FSB back in 1995-1997.
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