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re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:19 am to Mr. Misanthrope
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:19 am to Mr. Misanthrope
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Second best, maybe some oxygen/CO2 malfunction and everybody went to sleep
There should be several CO2 monitors that would prevent this. However, this sub appears to be scrapped together like a Hillbilly's party barge on the Tchefuncte river.
If it didn't implode, a power failure makes the most sense to me. If the main power source failed, I wonder if they could still control the oxygen flow?
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Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:22 am to Ping Pong
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If it didn't implode, a power failure makes the most sense to me. If the main power source failed, I wonder if they could still control the oxygen flow?
Wondering the same because supposedly it had days worth of oxygen in case of an emergency.
But then the cold becomes a problem as well as hydration even if they can still work the oxygen supply.
I think it likely imploded though.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:22 am to LPLGTiger
quote:It is a pretty frequent thing that happens. It’s much less than it was in the past but for a long time these private tourist subs would land on the deck. It obviously pissed a lot of researchers off (most notably James Cameron)
Just the thought behind a pilot of this thing wanting to actually get that close.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:26 am to LPLGTiger
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Not calling you out baw. Just the thought behind a pilot of this thing wanting to actually get that close.
Yeah, I'm not sure if there are many parts of the ship left that are even structurally stable enough to support a big submarine sitting on it at this point.
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 9:27 am
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:27 am to crap4brain
Nearer My God, To Thee baws.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:37 am to Ping Pong
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There should be several CO2 monitors that would prevent this. However, this sub appears to be scrapped together like a Hillbilly's party barge on the Tchefuncte river.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:37 am to Ancient Astronaut
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This would be a good horror movie plot
There was a movie called Raise the Titanic. A deep water submersible got caught up in the wreckage and (spoiler alert) they sent another one down to place explosive charges and free it. It's on Amazon Prime.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:38 am to TheFonz
Expert interviewed by the Sunday Times Radio says that it could be pretty much anywhere in a huge area because it happened where the Labrador current meets the Gulf Stream, which creates complex sets of currents and makes it impossible to predict where it could have been taken.
So the thing could be on the surface somewhere maybe or maybe not within range of search planes.
So the thing could be on the surface somewhere maybe or maybe not within range of search planes.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:40 am to Halls Hair
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There was a movie called Raise the Titanic. A deep water submersible got caught up in the wreckage and (spoiler alert) they sent another one down to place explosive charges and free it. It's on Amazon Prime.
Based on the Dirk Pitt novel, by Clive Cussler. Dirk even managed to raise the entire wreck by the end of the book.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:42 am to tonydtigr
Dirk Pitt was a BAMF.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:46 am to Ping Pong
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However, this sub appears to be scrapped together like a Hillbilly's party barge on the Tchefuncte river.
it had 50 test dives - one of which was even deeper than the Titanic itself and it remained intact.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:47 am to TheGasMan
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Seismometer reading off of St Johns, New Foundland during the dive times. Take that for what it’s worth.
That was at 6:30 pm local time so maybe a little late?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:47 am to crap4brain
Yay! A breaking story that will capture the audience of millions of Americans!! Yay!! They found an event to eat up the news cycle so they don’t have to talk about anything other than this dumb submarine!!
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:51 am to Diseasefreeforall
They probably dove on UTC time so whatever times reported are all fricked up based on reporters boondoggling reporting per usual.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:51 am to Diseasefreeforall
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So the thing could be on the surface somewhere maybe or maybe not within range of search planes.
When I worked on research ships we placed radio beacons on our equipment with pressure sensitive switches. If it accidentally surfaced the beacon would start transmitting.
It was also important that all equipment be positive buoyant so it would surface. If this thing is just neutrally buoyant they could be stuck floating around mid water column.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:52 am to crap4brain
This company charges their guests 250,000.00 for this adventure.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:57 am to FLTech
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They found an event to eat up the news cycle so they don’t have to talk about anything other than this dumb submarine!!
Looks like you have a ton of compassion.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:58 am to idlewatcher
I don’t really have compassion for people who spend $250,000 to look at a ship underwater where they should not have access to being that deep in water. Sorry.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:59 am to MasterDigger
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Most builders would have run through many iterations, testing the number of compressions before something on the sub was compromised. Once found it would have been re-engineered and limitations on usability identified.
I doubt these intensive tests were ever taken for this thing.
If not mistaken there is only one place that can do real testing for commercial deep dive and its in Russia? So my question is how do they test? If your test gets a leak it implodes and then you can’t tell what leaked.
My guess is implosion. But if not then maybe floating on surface somewhere. If they had comms issues they would immediately try to return to surface by dropping ballast right?
Then if they made it back to surface and due to being locked in they are screwed. Imagine floating on surface and not close to anyone, knowing air only lasts 96 hours - if they knew this would any of them off another to make the air last longer? How long would air last if only 2 are breathing?
But one poster said there was seismic acrivity so implosion is most likely.
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