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re: Thousands of protesters trapped by NYPD on Manhattan Bridge

Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:17 am to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:17 am to
The vast majority of protestors aren’t either.

I’ve said it several times here. Whether is a left or right thing, antifa, soros, whatever, someone is organizing or at least kicking off the violence and destruction in order to keep this a “look at all these black thugs rioting” thing. No one on the left or right wants to look at it that way but everyone should. It’s not just a coincidence and we’ve seen evidence of it with people smashing windows or dropping off bricks.

Very convenient that while we have streets full of whites and blacks protesting together, all we want to talk about is rioting.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 9:19 am
Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:26 am to
Anarchist come in all colors and from both ends of the political spectrum.

Having a well formed structure in an anarchist group is counterintuitive
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 9:28 am
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:27 am to
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Short time curfew due to riots seems reasonable.

Agreed. Short time stay-at-home order due to pandemic seems reasonable too...
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:39 am to
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Very convenient that while we have streets full of whites and blacks protesting together, all we want to talk about is rioting.



We as in tigerdroppings. The media is only talking about police brutality and the riots are peaceful until police cause unrest. Just did a quick scan of the internet, and only tigerdroppings is talking about the multiple officers that were shot in St Louis.

No one cares though to hold the media responsible for only reporting a narrative that fits their very biased, liberal agenda. Maybe we should all start looking at major media and major sites like reddit and twitter for only making certain issues popular and not reporting all the news.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:44 am to
We absolutely should hold the media accountable, but at some point, you have to realize CNN, Fox News, et al are made for people who watch young sheldon and CSI Bawcomville. If you aren’t the LCD, you have to find the source to get news without the opinion made for you.

Reddit/twitter for example are extremely left leaning, but that’s at the surface and for popular subs/accounts. You can find stuff for you, but you have to be a more active user and spend some time on it.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:55 am to
The only issue with media and major social media sites performing this way is that they are setting the perception for the entire country by suppressing news that can counter their agenda. Right now you have a country seeing this issue as black and white. I am a very active reddit user. They still suppress the hell out of any subreddit that doesn’t fit their agenda too. Any even potential conservative subreddit either becomes a troll subreddit, or constantly gets trolled.

I’m going to put on my tinfoil hat for a second, but I truly believe this divide has been greatly impacted by outside countries meddling around with our media. Just like I believe we probably played a good sized roll in helping the situation in Honk Kong escalate like it has. Just world politics trying to frick with each other by finding a weak spot in their society.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 9:57 am
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:59 am to
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I’m going to put on my tinfoil hat for a second


No judgement here, I’ve had mine on. There’s definitely something going on, and I wish more people were concerned about figuring out what it is.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:04 am to
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Very convenient that while we have streets full of whites and blacks protesting together, all we want to talk about is rioting.


True. However, you left out the part where, at least according to the MSM and social media...
“Its all Trump’s fault!”
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:10 am to
The problem is, you have people who are instigating as many protestors during the day to become rioters. So now peoples focus are either one police brutality or rioting and destruction. So how can you focus on fixing the problem if you worried about people potentially burning down multiuse buildings (which just happened in Virginia with families still in the building while it was being set on fire). Even if the protest stays peaceful, how can police focus on reform if they are having to prepare for a worst case scenario every night following the daytime protest.

If people want true change and reform, they should follow what Killer Mike said. Go home, actually plan a strategy to demand reform, and then have you words heard right and effectively instead of being combined with the violent acts proceeding these protest.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:27 am to
That seems like a disaster just waiting to happen.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171891 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:31 am to
In risk of someone crying because I mentioned where I live but the Austin group has made a list of reform demands. They meet at the APD HQ downtown everyday and then march down to the capitol. Outside of some overzealous jackasses blocking I35 (like 100 feet from the APD building) over the weekend, it’s been just the peaceful march. Every night while they’re in front of the police HQ, cops will come out and engage with them, and almost every convo ends with hugging or something similar. They’re doing it for like 45 days or something or until the reform happens. APD and the mayor both say reform is coming, so I guess we will see.

I think this is what happens when the protestors are mostly locals without any influence from higher powers with agendas. The arrests over the weekend were almost entirely people living in the area, and there was no burning or mass destruction or widespread looting. I don’t think that’s a coincidence. I guess we aren’t important enough for soros or whoever to send chaos our way.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 10:36 am
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:54 am to
I also think people expect to be given special treatment when protesting, even though iit is technically an unlawful assembly unless they have the proper permits. People keep mentioning that our fore fathers protested and even rioters, as in case as the Boston Tea Party. But they we also thrown in jail, and at times even executed. I whole heartedly agree that we should protest for what we believe in. But unless you do it lawfully, you should understand your actions have consequences. If you don’t go through the proper channels, either you should be okay with the consequences for your cause or finding a different solution to be heard.

Also, Austin is a completely different bird than the rest of the country. Absolutely love Austin. If I had stayed in Texas, would have moved there myself. But it is a very liberal city all around and probably more of an exception to what’s happening in this country than the norm.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 10:56 am
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:02 am to
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But unless you do it lawfully, you should understand your actions have consequences. If you don’t go through the proper channels, either you should be okay with the consequences for your cause or finding a different solution to be heard.


I 100% agree.

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But it is a very liberal city all around and probably more of an exception to what’s happening in this country than the norm.


True, but we had an APD officer shoot and kill an unarmed guy here just over a month ago. I figured it would be worse since the anger is directed at the police department responsible. It’s not directed at a proxy for those responsible for George Floyd.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:02 am to
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Very convenient that while we have streets full of whites and blacks protesting together, all we want to talk about is rioting.


Well most everyone seems to agree on what started the protest and an injustice occurred. The rioting doesn’t seem to be accomplishing anything for any cause.

I think I’m missing your point but it shouldn’t be a big surprise the focus is on the deaths, injury and destruction of property that has come from this. And I don’t agree with the “look at black thugs rioting” narrative, I think most can see that isn’t a 100% or even primarily black thing.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:05 am to
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No judgement here, I’ve had mine on. There’s definitely something going on, and I wish more people were concerned about figuring out what it is.



Sadly, part of the entire message is the submission of free thought
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171891 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:08 am to
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but it shouldn’t be a big surprise the focus is on the deaths, injury and destruction of property that has come from this.


For sure, so it’s very easy for someone with the means and an agenda to shift the focus. That’s kinda my point.
Posted by TexasTiger90
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:45 am to
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