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re: Thoughts on manmade climate change and whether it exists?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:00 am to Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:00 am to Jor Jor The Dinosaur
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Human activity 100% has an impact on the ecosystem and climate, often negatively. However, the magnitude of that impact is severely overblown.
I’ve been hearing about human impact since the 70’s. I was told that if we didn’t recycle, and drive more fuel efficient cars, we’d start to lose lives to rising temperatures.
We recycled. Fuel efficiency went way up. And that’s just the beginning. Air conditioners, refrigerators, and other machines became more efficient. Homes became more climate friendly.
All of these changes and How much did it move the needle on our impact to the climate? No one can answer that. From my own experience, it didn’t do much if anything.
The one thing that has changed a lot is the goal post.
I’m convinced after 50 years of listening to this stuff that it’s not humans fault. And even if it is, there isn’t much we can do about it. We might change our behavior in the US, but Developing countries will just do what they want. Citizens of the US should not be forced to carry the burden. But we do. We are the most conscientious developed nation on the planet. Yet we get scorned as bad stewards of “Mother Earth”.
I am entitled to live my life as I want to live it. I don’t litter. I would recycle if they actually recycled. I have battery vehicles. I walk when driving is not necessary. I have efficient hot water heaters and air conditioners. But when I want to drive aggressively or go to the race track and burn some gas, i should be allowed. When I want to drive my truck, it shouldn’t offend anyone.
I’m really sick and tired of the climate fear mongers. Get over it. Water levels will rise- build higher. It’ll get hotter- wear lighter clothing.- it might get colder- wear heavier clothing.
Adapt.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 9:04 am
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:04 am to Oneforthemoney
Another thing to consider: If you are someone who "trusts the science", then you are bound to admitting climate change exists on other planets with absolutely no help from human beings and/or the byproducts of their existence.
How it is that the laws of NATURAL climate change can apply to every planet in our solar system- EXCEPT Earth?
I'm not saying just say "screw it" and try to dwarf China in the pollution game- but as said above, our role in climate change is being overblown. And who's doing it? Those attempting to:
1. Monetize it.
2. Control you. It's not a coincidence the same people who are climate fascists are also connected to the global gun ban movement.
How it is that the laws of NATURAL climate change can apply to every planet in our solar system- EXCEPT Earth?
I'm not saying just say "screw it" and try to dwarf China in the pollution game- but as said above, our role in climate change is being overblown. And who's doing it? Those attempting to:
1. Monetize it.
2. Control you. It's not a coincidence the same people who are climate fascists are also connected to the global gun ban movement.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 9:06 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:06 am to Tigerroar73
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Before COVID, I was pretty apathetic about this issue. But after listening to COVID pseudoscience, I now think that manmade climate change is a bunch of BS to scare people.
Climate change and covid are the same thing. Does it exist? Sure. But it’s actual effects are minimal compared to the amount of government overreach it creates
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:13 am to Tigerroar73
The science has not been proven, and in fact climate 'science' is an abuse of the term science. The main problem is measurement and non-stationarity. It's very hard to measure global climate over extended periods.
Furthermore, the global climate is not a statistically stationary process. That means the underlying data generating process is not stable over time. The mean and variance changes over time in unpredictable ways, so saying "it's the hottest day ever" has no real meaning. It's like having a coin whose bias changes randomly. You can't flip it 50 times and then say, this coin is biased because I got heads 40 times. The coin could have changed over the course of the 50 flips.
Lastly, we only have one global climate, so it's hard to average out observations when we have one data generating process and it's non-stationary. The science linking cancer to smoking used millions of observations (smokers and non-smokers). We only have one observation here, the global climate.
TL;DR. Nobody knows if man-made warming is real, but climate science is not a real thing.
Furthermore, the global climate is not a statistically stationary process. That means the underlying data generating process is not stable over time. The mean and variance changes over time in unpredictable ways, so saying "it's the hottest day ever" has no real meaning. It's like having a coin whose bias changes randomly. You can't flip it 50 times and then say, this coin is biased because I got heads 40 times. The coin could have changed over the course of the 50 flips.
Lastly, we only have one global climate, so it's hard to average out observations when we have one data generating process and it's non-stationary. The science linking cancer to smoking used millions of observations (smokers and non-smokers). We only have one observation here, the global climate.
TL;DR. Nobody knows if man-made warming is real, but climate science is not a real thing.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:21 am to Tigerroar73
Human activity that releases CO2 is what supposedly is creating so-called “man-made climate change”.
CO2 makes up 0.04% of our planet’s atmosphere.
Of that 0.04%, humans account for roughly 3% of that.
Saying we humans are causing the climate to change is akin to thinking people pissing in the ocean when they go to the beach will cause ocean levels to rise. We have no more control of this planet’s climate than we do its orbit around the sun. Anyone claiming otherwise is either a damned fool or lying.
CO2 makes up 0.04% of our planet’s atmosphere.
Of that 0.04%, humans account for roughly 3% of that.
Saying we humans are causing the climate to change is akin to thinking people pissing in the ocean when they go to the beach will cause ocean levels to rise. We have no more control of this planet’s climate than we do its orbit around the sun. Anyone claiming otherwise is either a damned fool or lying.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:28 am to oleheat
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Another thing to consider: If you are someone who "trusts the science", then you are bound to admitting climate change exists on other planets with absolutely no help from human beings and/or the byproducts of their existence.
How it is that the laws of NATURAL climate change can apply to every planet in our solar system- EXCEPT Earth?
Well, nobody says the climate doesn't change. Except you I guess?
And if we're bringing up other planets let's visit Venus. A literal hell scape caused by..... greenhouse gases.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:30 am to DavidTheGnome
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And if we're bringing up other planets let's visit Venus. A literal hell scape caused by..... greenhouse gases.
Venus CO2: 96.5%
Earth CO2: 0.04%
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:34 am to Darth_Vader
This thread proves that we have some quacks on this board.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:41 am to Wraytex
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About sea levels rising, you students know the oceans are all connected right? Or is there some flat earth mechanism that causes the sea to rise more in regions that are sinking?
Sea level between the oceans isn't the same. The Pacific is about 8 inches higher than the Atlantic if i remember correctly.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:44 am to Tigerroar73
It's probably true to some extent, but I think humans being the primary cause is massively overstated, and it's being used by governments for more power, control and money.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 11:45 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:35 pm to Tigerroar73
Two things can be true.. manmade climate change is real and will start to have more extreme levels of impact over the course of the next hundred years. And the notion that we can really do anything to stop at this point is bullshite. We arent going to windmill and Tesla our way out of the issue.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:40 pm to Tigerroar73
No, it does not exist. Our planet's climate isn't static and has been ebbing and flowing for billions of years.
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