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re: Thoughts on Derek Chauvin’s sentence?

Posted on 2/18/22 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 12:59 pm to
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Chauvin fricked around and found out


Good riddance



Pretty much how I feel about both of them.
Posted by beauxgy
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:01 pm to
Virtue signal all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that your idol took a lethal dose of fentanyl, FAFO indeed.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:03 pm to
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Pretty much how I feel about both of them.
same
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:03 pm to
I was really trying to start a discussion about how much intent matters and should be applied in law. But we can’t get past basic facts like Chauvin’s knee directly leading to Floyd’s death.
Posted by cable
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:05 pm to
Yea, and this is just a case of two assholes meeting up at the wrong time - one with a badge and one with counterfeit currency and too many drugs in his system.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:06 pm to
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Just watch it instead of arguing, he says the cause of death was neck compression


He literally says “part of” the cause of death was neck compression.

He then goes on to say it didn’t look like his knee was on his neck, but his back and/or side. He then further says that there was no evidence that it restricted the carotid artery, and even if it had “normal people” would still have blood flow due to the 2nd artery.

The best part though. That’s when he admits that there were no physical signs of strangulation or asphyxiation typically seen when someone is forcibly deprived of oxygen. 36 minute mark, just for your reference.

So basically he ruled “neck compressions” as a cause with no evidence that Floyd’s neck was ever compressed.

Thanks for the link.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:08 pm to
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But we can’t get past basic facts like Chauvin’s knee directly leading to Floyd’s death.


According to YOUR link, the ME stated there was no physical evidence that Floyd’s neck was ever compressed.

Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:08 pm to
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beauxgy



Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:08 pm to
True enough, but one arse hole’s actions directly led to the death of another in this instance.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:08 pm to
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But we can’t get past basic facts like Chauvin’s knee directly leading to Floyd’s death.

I you're statement above would have read like below, I would agree with you.
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But we can’t get past basic facts like Chauvin’s knee directly contributing to Floyd’s death.

Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:10 pm to
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Just watch it instead of arguing, he says the cause of death was neck compression


frick you and frick George Floyd

He never said that. You are a serial liar like Floyd was a serial criminal.

He said neck compression was one of the items on the top line of causes of death. ALONG WITH DRUGS, ENLARGED HEART, CORONARY BLOCKAGES, etc.

He didn’t say it was the only cause of death

And if keep listening he states that his knee was not compressing the carotid artery and even if it was we have 2 carotid arteries so it would cause him to lose consciousness
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:11 pm to
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And if keep listening he states that his knee was not compressing the carotid artery and even if it was we have 2 carotid arteries so it would cause him to lose consciousness


Keep going. A little further along he states that there were no physical signs that the neck was compressed at all.
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:12 pm to
Was neck compression on the top line of his cause of death?
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:13 pm to
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Was neck compression on the top line of his cause of death?


Did the ME admit that there were no signs of neck compression?
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:15 pm to
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frick you and frick George Floyd. You are a serial liar like Floyd was a serial criminal.
Take it easy dude. We disagree on this issue, it’s ok. I bet there are many more we agree on.
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:17 pm to
Yes, but we saw his neck being compressed in the video. Just because there isn’t a post mortem sign of injury doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:22 pm to
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Yes, but we saw his neck being compressed in the video. Just because there isn’t a post mortem sign of injury doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.


If there was no port mortem evidence, it clearly wasn’t enough to “cause death” as you keep ignorantly parroting. Also, the ME admitted that he didn’t think he was on his neck. Weird, right?

Almost like something else was the cause of death. Heart attack, maybe?
This post was edited on 2/18/22 at 1:24 pm
Posted by beauxgy
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:26 pm to
Your version of that shirt says "prison warden/shot caller".
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:27 pm to
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If there was no post mortem evidence, it clearly wasn’t enough to “cause death”
this is not true. And all of the experts at trial as well as 99 percent of people who watched the video concluded that Chauvin’s actions led to Floyd’s death.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:28 pm to
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s well as 99 percent of people who watched the video concluded that Chauvin’s actions led to Floyd’s death.
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this is not true
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