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re: This service dog problem is out of control

Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:14 am to
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
5095 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:14 am to
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two rows in front of me was a girl with a golden retriever


Now that's really thoughtless of that girl. I have had several golden retrievers, and I can tell you they shed everyfrickingwhere. Those people were no doubt wearing "fur coats" when they left.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29416 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:16 am to
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
5095 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:37 am to
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Holy Crap!
Posted by PeterPeterP
Member since Jan 2013
781 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:03 pm to
Let the hoes parade them all they want. They crap or piss on my stuff, or stink the plane up, I’m punting it like it’s the 4th Quarter, 4th down and two seconds left of the Super Bowl
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 7:32 pm to
Unless you’re a doctor and you’ve examined the person and their medical history, you really can’t assess whether or not a person needs a service animal. A person can look fit and young yet struggle with reactions that cause loss of consciousness (vasal vagal reactions, epilepsy, diabetes, etc.), impaired motor function (early arthritis), or panic attacks (such as a crime victim experiencing PTSD). Judge less
Posted by helluvaday
Member since Jun 2018
443 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 7:35 pm to
Epilepsy isn't.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72051 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 7:36 pm to
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Unless you’re a doctor and you’ve examined the person and their medical history, you really can’t assess whether or not a person needs a service animal. A person can look fit and young yet struggle with reactions that cause loss of consciousness (vasal vagal reactions, epilepsy, diabetes, etc.), impaired motor function (early arthritis), or panic attacks (such as a crime victim experiencing PTSD). Judge less
Scruffy is a doctor.

90+% are bullshite, in Scruffy’s professional opinion.

It is a cheap way for people to fly with their animals.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 7:37 pm
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 7:39 pm to
You have to factor in that the disabled are a bit less likely to drive and to have traditional employment- this may partially explain how noticeable the trend is in airports. I’m not saying some people aren’t exaggerating the need, but who cares? Better some people get away it than legitimately handicapped people get stink eye because they “look fine”
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56220 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 8:42 pm to
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Unless you’re a doctor and you’ve examined the person and their medical history, you really can’t assess whether or not a person needs a service animal. A person can look fit and young yet struggle with reactions that cause loss of consciousness (vasal vagal reactions, epilepsy, diabetes, etc.), impaired motor function (early arthritis), or panic attacks (such as a crime victim experiencing PTSD). Judge less
are all these issues like 5 years old? Because a decade ago people were not dying in the airports and I didn’t have mutts all over the place
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29150 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 8:50 pm to
There should be a legit medical reason for it, anxiety doesn’t count, and there should be an exclusionary list where pit bulls and Rottweilers Connor be used.

All the rest of them can pop a pill and fly like normal people. Dog people are weird as frick, I can’t imagine wanting to have a damned animal around younall the time. And the project human attributes onto the dots and pretend like they’re people. The dumbass idea that the dog needs them and can’t survive without their constant care, that it has feeling, needs this that and the other. Fricking weirdos. They shouldn’t be allowed to drag their weird animal human obsessions into public, it’s 2019 there shouldn’t be animals on our damned airplanes.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 8:56 pm to
It’s not about life or death at every moment, it’s about whether the animal performs a disability related function (I’m not discussing ESA in this context. Generally, I think ESA should be allowed in the cabin but you should have to buy the animal a seat). Maybe 5 years ago people were worried about being judged, didn’t realize they qualified, or relied on alternatives like pain medication. The airport is unique because it indicates a journey of some days. It’s more likely people will be unwilling to part with an animal who performs a service this length of time. Also, airports have gotten a lot more stressful over the past couple of decades- TSA nude machines, inability to accompany loved ones to gate, etc. I’m not surprised more people need/want support for the experience
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8612 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 8:57 pm to
service giraffe
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 8:59 pm to
Anxiety is a legit medical condition. Like pain or many others things, severity varies along a spectrum. Anxiety can run the gamut from everyday nervousness to life-limiting, chronic anxiety or panic attacks. Like pain, some anxiety will need to be medicated (or require a service dog) and some requires no more than some Tylenol/band aid type attention.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29150 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:04 pm to
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Anxiety is a legit medical condition. Like pain or many others things, severity varies along a spectrum. Anxiety can run the gamut from everyday nervousness to life-limiting, chronic anxiety or panic attacks. Like pain, some anxiety will need to be medicated (or require a service dog) and some requires no more than some Tylenol/band aid type attention.



I definitely understand, I’ve had it along with full blown panic attacks that were completely debilitating. Saw a doctor, psychiatrist, and shrink. Took klonopins which did wonders but the withdrawals from them were absolute hell.

That doesn’t mean that it’s a condition for a dog to be brought on a damned plane though. Seizures and other things that could kill you I’m sort of ok with but kind of not. Otherwise no. You put other people’s lives in danger who may be allergic. Not to mention allllll of the other normal people that don’t want to sit next to a damned animal.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:12 pm to
Hi David (mr.gnome) thanks for sharing and I’m sorry you went through that
The thing is, the presence of dogs in the airport, both for service and for security work, negates the allergy argument.
If a person has severe anxiety, a dog can perform several functions. For social anxiety, the dog may be trained to put space between a person and someone approaching them, to alert the owner when someone is coming up from behind, or even to sense heart rhythm changes that can signal a building panic attack.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 9:17 pm
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