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re: This season's flu shot for the US, UK and Canada is likely to be a 'mismatch'

Posted on 10/1/19 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24743 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 5:56 pm to
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Of course we now wonder what to do and I can honestly say that we're stumped.

Try living your life.
If you get sick stay in bed a few days
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115454 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 6:10 pm to
That story said 80k people died of the flu in the US last year.

I am pretty sure that's way fricking off
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
21449 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 6:16 pm to
The whole time I had it,I kept thinking how do older people actually survive this.Mine was that bad.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22072 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 6:58 pm to
The fact people still think a working flu shot is possible is hilarious.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:15 pm to
I see hundreds of flu patients each year and I have yet to get it.

And I’ve never received the influenza vaccine.
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:25 pm to
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I see hundreds of flu patients each year and I have yet to get it. And I’ve never received the influenza vaccine.


Do you think annual flu vaccines are beneficial, harmful, or make no difference?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:28 pm to
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Kids die of flu every month, every year. So why is it a metric of it being a bad year now?



Because it's 2019. Emotions >>>>>> facts, science, or reason.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10264 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:29 pm to
Deadbeat husband
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:10 pm to
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I've avoided the shot in an attempt to contract the virus, because the sweet release of near death would be a nice break from the hell that is my job at the end of the year. Still nothing.


Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:11 pm to
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That story said 80k people died of the flu in the US last year.

I am pretty sure that's way fricking off




Swing... and a miss.
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
8305 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:12 pm to
The flu shot decreases your relative risk of getting the flue from 2% to 1% which is a 50% decrease in relative risk.

But your chance of getting the flu only improves from 2 in 100 to 1 in 100, which is only a 1% decrease in absolute risk.

It isn’t worth the cost to healthcare.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 9:49 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167512 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:13 pm to
Wasn't last years flu shot also worthless?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167512 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:17 pm to
she isn't like this and no way she has a kid named Braxtyn.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115454 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:20 pm to
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

That's an incredible stat. I'd have to imagine the vast majority are old people.
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:22 pm to
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Wasn't last years flu shot also worthless?

No.

2018-2019

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The 2018-2019 flu season has been a relatively mild one — and a pretty effective flu shot is part of the reason why.

Mid-season estimates suggest that the flu shot has reduced the risk of illness by around 47% in vaccinated people, according to a report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released Thursday. During the severe 2017-2018 flu season, vaccine efficacy was estimated at just 36%.
The difference is partly because the dominant influenza virus last year, H3N2, is known to cause more serious illnesses and to be less responsive to vaccination than other strains. This year, H1N1 — which is more easily targeted by the flu shot — has been circulating most widely, leading to less-severe and fewer illnesses overall. The CDC estimates that the flu shot reduced the risk of H1N1 infection by about 46% among adults, and about 62% among children ages six months to 17 years old.


That’s not worthless.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:24 pm to
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That's an incredible stat. I'd have to imagine the vast majority are old people.

Yep. That flu year hit old people hard. Some years the strains inexplicably kill perfectly healthy 30-40 year olds at a higher rate. That year, it was cleaning out Heaven's waiting room.

This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
8305 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 9:12 pm to
Your chance of getting the flu is 2%.

Your chance of getting the flu if you have the flu shot is 1%.

This is a 50% reduction, but only a 1% reduction in relative risk.

I stand by my statement.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 9:13 pm to
As usual, I will not be getting a flu shot. I will not be injecting my body with that poison.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 9:24 pm
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 9:22 pm to
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OKellsBells



Don't try using things like basic facts with this group OKellsBells, you know better

I will of course be getting my flu shot this year.

1)I have to for work
2)I'm a responsible adult and don't wish to spread to flu to those that could be seriously harmed by it (such as senior citizens, babies, and those immunocompromised by other medical conditions).
3)I'm not an idiot

Posted by BreesyInBigEasy
Member since Sep 2019
770 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 9:25 pm to
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I stand by my statement.


How cute

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Your chance of getting the flu is 2%. Your chance of getting the flu if you have the flu shot is 1%. This is a 50% reduction, but only a 1% reduction in relative risk.


So millions of less people getting the flu and therefore not spreading it isn’t worth it to the healthcare system?
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 9:32 pm
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