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re: This math problem is clearly only for geniuses...

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Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:04 am to
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Instead of PEMDAS it should be PE(MD)(AS)


[PE(MD)(AS)]^exponents
--------------> . . <-------------

Problem is that PEMDAS is supposed to make parentheses less necessary and here we are throwing in a bunch of them.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 10:05 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:04 am to
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For what? They're unnecessary for this problem.



Parenthesis are typically used to clarify an otherwise unclear mathematical equation. 5 pages of discussion should tell you it's anything but clear.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:05 am to
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Parenthesis are typically used to clarify an otherwise unclear mathematical equation. 5 pages of discussion should tell you it's anything but clear.


This isn't like the 288/8 problem. The only way to get this wrong is to not do the math correctly. You can't justify unnecessary parentheses because some idiots here can't do the math correctly.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:06 am to
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but it doesn't always work out. for example

3x8/2x4=

(3x8)/(2x4)= 3
3x(8/2)x4= 48


If I was working that out I'd treat the 8/2 as a single value shown in the form of a fraction, thus 3x4x4=48.

I don't know if that's "correct" though.
Posted by Fermat
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:06 am to
Eleventy
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:07 am to
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Parenthesis are typically used to clarify an otherwise unclear mathematical equation. 5 pages of discussion should tell you it's anything but clear.
Yeah but the point of PEMDAS is to cut down on parentheses when possible.

Without order of operations, 6x^2 + 2x - 15 would have to be written [6(x^2)] + (2x) - 15

That's not even a great example but it should help show why PEMDAS is useful
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:07 am to
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You can't justify unnecessary parentheses because some idiots here can't do the math correctly.
Damn. Forget something from grade school and now I'm an idiot.

That sucks.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:08 am to
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Damn. Forget something from grade school and now I'm an idiot.

That sucks.



Sorry you can't do grade school math. That doesn't make parentheses required.

ETA: And it doesn't make you an idiot at everything, but something tells me you're just looking to start an argument with me.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 10:09 am
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:09 am to
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Sorry you can't do grade school math.
Me, too. I'm an idiot now.
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That doesn't make parentheses required.
When did I say that?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:09 am to
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When did I say that?


I never said you did. Unwad your panties.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:09 am to
Why not put it parentheses like adults do?
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:09 am to
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Answer is 9, retards
Posted by Flamefighter
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:09 am to
9. This is black and white. (No pun intended).
Posted by KG6
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:10 am to
That's where some people lean on the "left to right" rule. I personally come from an engineering background and spent years solving problems that actually represented something. Therefore I knew what operations needed to take place first and used parenthesis to mark it that way. I feel like left to right can be used as a math language, but it seems like something used for solving arithmetic at the end of a 7th grade text book. It's not wrong to say left to right I guess, but I was never taught that, so I consider it to still be ambiguous. Again, this has nothing to do with the OP problem. That problem is clear.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:10 am to
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I never said you did.
Then why say that to me?
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Unwad your panties.
I don't wear panties.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:11 am to
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Then why say that to me?


For the benefit of everyone reading the thread.

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I don't wear panties.


Nor do you understand popular expressions. Carry on.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:12 am to
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Why not put it parentheses like adults do?
Because in the problem the OP posted, parentheses are completely unnecessary. Anyone with a mastery of grade school mathematics should be able to correctly solve that problem.

It's funny, you're unable to solve the problem and you're blaming other people because you got it wrong. The problem isn't with how it's written, it's with you.

It's of almost zero real consequence, so own it and admit you got it wrong and that it's your own fault. Who gives a frick?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:13 am to
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Because in the problem the OP posted, parentheses are completely unnecessary. Anyone with a mastery of grade school mathematics should be able to correctly solve that problem.


Preach.
Posted by AUbagman
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:13 am to
It's 9.. 3x0=0, then it's just 3+3+3.
Posted by MadtownTiger
Texas
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:14 am to
3+3-3x0+3

Parentheses - none
Exponents - none

Multiplication
3+3-3x0+3 = 3+3-0+3

Division - none

Addition
3+3-0+3 = (3+3)-(0+3) = 6-3

Or, you can do the subtraction method which it seems plenty of y'all are doing before you do the addition step.

3+3-0+3 = 3+3+3 = 9

Subtraction - none

6-3 = 3 <---

This is what I'm going with.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 10:17 am
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