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Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:38 am to StraightCashHomey21
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rap culture
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A LOT of younger people laugh this off as an excuse but IMO it is a huge factor.
lulz
rap music back 10 years ago was much more violent and vulgar than it is now. Kids now days are growing up in the electronic music culture.
And the people who listened to "rap music 10 years ago, which was much more violent and vulgar than it is now", are the gentic parents to these kids now days. Do you think there are truly "parenting" these kids?
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:40 am to prplhze2000
Needs to be put down like a rabid dog. The "kid" will never learn and grow up thinking that behavior is ok. Would not be a loss of any sort.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:40 am to lsu480
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You guys need to watch the TV show "Last Chance High" about a school in the southside of Chicago if you REALLY want to see how bad it is
What is the sense in teaching kids algebra when they don't know basic decency and respect for others and self?
This is what you get in public schools in an era where everyone pretends to believe in moral relativism. The administrators shown in the first few minutes of episode 1 are obviously decent people who "get" how to succeed in life. But they can't give those kids an education that would actually help me them out of that life.
These kids won't be stuck in a bad life because they lack understanding of the Pythagorean theorem or never mastered grammar. They are stuck there at least partially because they aren't taught how to live a good life.
We have a disastrously narrow view of what constitutes an education. Public schools as they exist today cannot truly educate anyone except by accident.
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 8:49 am
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:42 am to Azranod
I think the majority of parents of teens had their formative teen years ranging from the late 80's to mid to late 90's. During that time, especially mid 90's and back, the rap culture was all about violence, or at least that's what it seemed to me on the outside looking in.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:43 am to OMLandshark
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I don't think this is the problem with the kids we're talking about. Most of these kids have a cider jug for a mom and a wolverine for a dad (if he's present at all), to where the kid is typically beaten, ignored, and treated in all sorts of deplorable ways. Sure the coddled kids can turn into Eric Cartman's, but these kids typically aren't the violent types that ruin schools.
Not sure if serious? Aren't theses kids as much of a threat but with parents of who have the money and resources to cover up their disfunction until they seriously hurt someone. And I'm not talking just talking about school shootings but other types of violence and substance abuse that will manifest itself when he/she is unable to be a function adult
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:44 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Needs to be put down like a rabid dog. The "kid" will never learn and grow up thinking that behavior is ok. Would not be a loss of any sort.
That's a VERY dangerous road for us to go down as a society.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:45 am to Darth_Vader
Don't talk to me about rap music if you let your kid watch horror movies and play violent video games.
Either those things negatively affect the mind's development or they don't.
Either those things negatively affect the mind's development or they don't.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:47 am to Sir Drinksalot
Because the poor kid was hungry. 
That seems funny to those of us who have the luxury of eating whenever we want. But think about it, how is your mood when you are hungry versus when you are not? Many kids only get meals during the week at school. The chemical imbalance inside their body from a horrible diet definitely affects their behavior, although it's the parents fault for not providing for their child. I understand this is not your case, I too have a child who can't sit still. I think it is more the kids who act out, are rude, and disrespectful. I believe there is certainly a correlation between kids who don't eat at home and how they behave at school. Training the teacher doesn't fix that.
That seems funny to those of us who have the luxury of eating whenever we want. But think about it, how is your mood when you are hungry versus when you are not? Many kids only get meals during the week at school. The chemical imbalance inside their body from a horrible diet definitely affects their behavior, although it's the parents fault for not providing for their child. I understand this is not your case, I too have a child who can't sit still. I think it is more the kids who act out, are rude, and disrespectful. I believe there is certainly a correlation between kids who don't eat at home and how they behave at school. Training the teacher doesn't fix that. Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:49 am to uway
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Don't talk to me about rap music if you let your kid watch horror movies and play violent video games.
Either those things negatively affect the mind's development or they don't.
I don't think it's a matter of how these things affect a child's mind. Rather it seems to me that the main issue that has come from rap music is it's effect on the overall culture of the community.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:51 am to Darth_Vader
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That's a VERY dangerous road for us to go down as a society.
Yes it is. And it's unfortunate that this "person" will be nothing more than a drain on society living off the rest of us - or in jail or both. Oh, wait...
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:52 am to Darth_Vader
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I don't think it's a matter of how these things affect a child's mind. Rather it seems to me that the main issue that has come from rap music is it's effect on the overall culture of the community.
The culture is a result of their beliefs about life.
The music comes from the culture and accentuates the worst aspects of it, thereby worsening the culture by worsening the minds.
It's especially harmful to developing children.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:52 am to Darth_Vader
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I don't think it's a matter of how these things affect a child's mind. Rather it seems to me that the main issue that has come from rap music is it's effect on the overall culture of the community.
So much truth.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:52 am to Darth_Vader
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Needs to be put down like a rabid dog. The "kid" will never learn and grow up thinking that behavior is ok. Would not be a loss of any sort.
That's a VERY dangerous road for us to go down as a society.
That may be, but that doesnt change the fact that he's right. This kid should be put down. His entire family as well.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:53 am to WFTiger
It's called "hangry"
My child's teacher this year has been so adaptive and kind to him. I couldn't have asked for anything better. I also hold him accountable for his actions.
I cannot fathom a child who only eats at school. I know it happens though.
I have also seen the opposite. A child who eats pop tarts and drinks coke for breakfast (whatever he wants). Kids on caffeine...not fun to deal with
My child's teacher this year has been so adaptive and kind to him. I couldn't have asked for anything better. I also hold him accountable for his actions.
I cannot fathom a child who only eats at school. I know it happens though.
I have also seen the opposite. A child who eats pop tarts and drinks coke for breakfast (whatever he wants). Kids on caffeine...not fun to deal with
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:55 am to Darth_Vader
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I don't think it's a matter of how these things affect a child's mind. Rather it seems to me that the main issue that has come from rap music is it's effect on the overall culture of the community.
Abso-frickin-lutely.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:56 am to WFTiger
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Because the poor kid was hungry. That seems funny to those of us who have the luxury of eating whenever we want. But think about it, how is your mood when you are hungry versus when you are not? Many kids only get meals during the week at school. The chemical imbalance inside their body from a horrible diet definitely affects their behavior, although it's the parents fault for not providing for their child. I understand this is not your case, I too have a child who can't sit still. I think it is more the kids who act out, are rude, and disrespectful. I believe there is certainly a correlation between kids who don't eat at home and how they behave at school. Training the teacher doesn't fix that.
Being hungry doesn't even begin to be an excuse for acts of violence.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:57 am to Spaceman Spiff
They aren't scared of getting in trouble at school. That's a big problem.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 9:01 am to Darth_Vader
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Needs to be put down like a rabid dog. The "kid" will never learn and grow up thinking that behavior is ok. Would not be a loss of any sort.
That's a VERY dangerous road for us to go down as a society.
Only to the degree of not being properly selective of the people who weild that authority. With the standard of election that has resulted in the last four different POTUS's that could be disastrous. Return to electing higher morals and standards people to the office, and a tougher discipline/death system would greatly improve society as a whole.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 9:03 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Yes it is. And it's unfortunate that this "person" will be nothing more than a drain on society living off the rest of us - or in jail or both. Oh, wait.
I see what you're saying and can see how you can come to the conclusion on this matte that you have. The thing about this though is that I think if we start exterminating those we see as less than human, we've become no better than Nazi Germany.
Another thing to consider is that if we give the state the authority to kill people who have committed no capital crime other than to be seen as undesirable for society, we've opened a real Pandora's box. for while whatever extermination program started, it assuredly would morph and grow overtime to where people would be being exterminated for any number of reasons that were never envisioned at the start. I hearken back to the Nazis and the Holocaust. They did not immediately start out by rounding up Jews and marching them into gas chambers by the thousands. Instead the first victims of the Holocaust were mentally challenged children that the state determined were no good to themselves or anyone else and were thus better off dead.
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