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Posted on 6/24/14 at 5:54 pm to lsunurse
We all know the vast majority of overweight and obese people would say the same. These blogs and shite are the minority but everyone loves the latch onto it as an excuse to be straight up mean. On the internet and in person.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 5:56 pm to Winkface
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but everyone loves the latch onto it as an excuse to be straight up mean.
well, can you blame them? especially the people who sacrifice to eat right and work out
plus, those people also have to SUBSIDIZE fat people's terrible choices, so there is a financial loss
thin "privilege" isn't even an innate thing like white privilege. you have to earn being thin due to your choices
i've been saying for about a year that once the gay thing gets wrapped up, the social justice warriors will focus on fat people (AIDS possibly, but that's really just a continuation of the gay issue so i doubt they go back to back)
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 6/24/14 at 5:57 pm to Winkface
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We all know the vast majority of overweight and obese people would say the same. These blogs and shite are the minority but everyone loves the latch onto it as an excuse to be straight up mean. On the internet and in person.
True...at the moment.
This crap is gaining popularity. It needs to be taken out back and put down before it gets too bad.
Edit to add: there's also issue that my tax dollars are going to subsidize this kind of behavior. That pisses me off. Sorry.
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:00 pm to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
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As a fat, southern, college educated, gun owning, christian, straight, white male who believes in small government, I would like to now where all my privilege is and when can I expect to start receiving it?
FTFM.
Seriously. I'm a big dude. I weigh in at roughly 305. I got this way because I worked out for years, stopped working out and kept the appetite. I have what one could call the ex-athlete fats. Could I lose the weight if I wanted? Yuup. DO I feel like it right now? Nope. MY BP is 112/65, I play bball 1-4 days a week. Active every day between yard work, sports, and hobbies. Some of you have seen pictures, by inference you know im not fugly.
I say all that to say this. Notice 99% of these posts are by hyper feminists? This is as stupid as anything I have ever seen. It is incomprehensible that adult human beings can possibly have this mindset. It is ludicrous. My mind has melted reading this thread.
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:00 pm to AbuTheMonkey
Unfortunately, a "fat movement" would have as much legitimacy as a wealth inequality movement, I think. Both are malleable. Both involve situations where people can be "born into it" and fail to escape. Both result from, or are continued by poor choices.
I don't say that to legitimize it, I'm just saying the precedent is already there for ridiculous causes which have gained social legitimacy.
I don't say that to legitimize it, I'm just saying the precedent is already there for ridiculous causes which have gained social legitimacy.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:01 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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there's also issue that my tax dollars are going to subsidize this kind of behavior
more than just that
if you buy private insurance, you're subsidizing this
i have a simple question: why are smokers vilified but people who choose a lifestyle that makes them fat are off limits?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:02 pm to Ross
Fat shaming is great bc fat people shouldn't have feelings. If they choose to do that to their bodies, then they should be OK with the negatives associated
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
That applies to rich vs poor too, right? I'm just saying shaming doesn't work. Fat shaming, slut shaming, whatever.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i have a simple question: why are smokers vilified but people who choose a lifestyle that makes them fat are off limits?
i don't see a whole lot of "smoker shaming" but i could be missing it.
Either way I don't think the shaming aspect is really a viable solution.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i have a simple question: why are smokers vilified but people who choose a lifestyle that makes them fat are off limits?
Eh, they are vilified. That may change, but fat people are fair targets in society at large. Easy targets, even.
Stuff like this is the exception, for now.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:06 pm to Winkface
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That applies to rich vs poor too, right? I'm just saying shaming doesn't work. Fat shaming, slut shaming, whatever.
The broader idea definitely works. Societal pressure is amazing. In fact, it's probably the most viable solution for a variety of things we'd like to reduce (and where government involvement is heavily debated). Poverty, obesity, smoking, abortion, teen pregnancy, etc.
Collective disapproval, in a less overt way, would almost certainly reduce all of these things, IMO.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:07 pm to Winkface
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That applies to rich vs poor too, right?
for the most part, yes. why we protect bad decision makers boggles my mind
to be legit poor in this country, you have to make a series of shite decisions. you have to try pretty hard to be poor
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:07 pm to StrawberriousJackson
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If they choose to do that to their bodies, then they should be OK with the negatives associated
aye, this be true.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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to be legit poor in this country, you have to make a series of shite decisions. you have to try pretty hard to be poor
What do you consider "legit poor"?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:10 pm to lsunurse
even though i don't fully agree with it, but i'll put it this way for simplicity: let's say you're stuck as an adult with children and you are only able to work a minimum wage job
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
what is worse poor and thin or fat and rich?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:pretty broad brush brah
to be legit poor in this country, you have to make a series of shite decisions. you have to try pretty hard to be poor
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:14 pm to Winkface
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That applies to rich vs poor too, right? I'm just saying shaming doesn't work. Fat shaming, slut shaming, whatever.
Setting rigorous social expectations and giving negative feedback when those expectations aren't met isn't "shaming". Setting the culture very early in life and then keeping people within those boundaries is part of social constructs.
I frankly probably wouldn't care one iota if it didn't hurt my own wallet, but it does. Sorry. Though the medical infrastructure in this country has a lot of problems, unhealthy lifestyles is near (if not at) the very top of reasons why we spend so much GD money on healthcare.
One of the reasons that more socialized medical systems work in some European countries is because they subtly shame the hell out of those who don't live healthy lifestyles. Not to get too political, but it looks like we are going in that direction, and if that's the case, I am going to shame the hell out of a large class of people that are the cause of some of my own outrageous medical bills.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:14 pm to SneakySally
quote:Poor and thin because if you are fat and rich, you can pay for surgery, personal trainer, personal chef, etc to fix your problem.
what is worse poor and thin or fat and rich?
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