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Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:46 pm to OWLFAN86
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that and you were arguing with me
Wrong. I asked multiple questions that you dodged.
1. Do you think guns should be banned because of school shootings?
2. Do you think doctors have trouble filling their waiting rooms with normal patients?
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:52 pm to SeeeeK
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While at the same time trashing doctors for giving patients what they ask for.
Is it a doctor's job to give the patient what they ask for? When a doctor gives someone a prescription.
This guy knew exactly what he was doing. If he honestly thought that what he was doing was in the best interest of the patient then I would have to question how he was able to become a doctor in the first place.
Are you able to go see your doctor tell him/her "hey my arm is hurting, give me the max amount of percocet you are able to prescribe me. Thanks"
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:53 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:I think we should arm the teachers and students who pass a gun safety test
1. Do you think guns should be banned because of school shootings
not the janitors though, they might be blek
quote:not the ones that are running pill factories
Do you think doctors have trouble filling their waiting rooms with normal patients?
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:58 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Mcalisters
I thought they shut down?
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:01 pm to OWLFAN86
Comedy is a common response when you realize you are wrong
It’s literally the same discussion as the gun debate. And you want to expand the amount of guns people have. Interesting.
Let me break down what you saw tonight...
- The media finds an extreme example... a mass shooting (in this case a pill mill)
- Media then makes an oversimplified diagnosis like guns are inherently violent (in this case doctors are causing the opioid crisis)
- Then they offer a solution that appeals to small minded people like we should ban all guns (in this case, doctors/big pharma is the problem)
Wash, rinse, repeat with the next “crisis”
It’s literally the same discussion as the gun debate. And you want to expand the amount of guns people have. Interesting.
Let me break down what you saw tonight...
- The media finds an extreme example... a mass shooting (in this case a pill mill)
- Media then makes an oversimplified diagnosis like guns are inherently violent (in this case doctors are causing the opioid crisis)
- Then they offer a solution that appeals to small minded people like we should ban all guns (in this case, doctors/big pharma is the problem)
Wash, rinse, repeat with the next “crisis”
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:06 pm to OweO
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I thought they shut down?
They did. Shutdown by the feds for giving free chocolate chip cookies to doctors in exchange for viagra scripts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:09 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:did you watch the report ?
WaWaWeeWa
it focuses on good deal of the story on ONE Dr,
the one convicted
and I support the 2nd amendment
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:12 pm to OweO
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Are you able to go see your doctor tell him/her "hey my arm is hurting, give me the max amount of percocet you are able to prescribe me. Thanks"
No
But there is a flip side to that argument. For example a patient has a shoulder surgery. Doctor says, “Hey I have these pills that I could give you so you wouldn’t have to be in pain for the next 6 weeks but since some highschool kids in an upscale suburban neighborhood have been ODing on illegal drugs in the same class, you are just going to have to take Tylenol and man up”
You are going to be ok with that? Be honest
Because I wouldn’t be surprised if there would be quite a few lawsuits for pain and suffering because of that
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:15 pm to OWLFAN86
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it focuses on good deal of the story on ONE Dr,
I know. That’s my point. That why I responded to Seeeek who makes generalized conclusions based on anecdotal stories like this
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:28 pm to WaWaWeeWa
The issue is people are in pain. They just want the pain to end. So they overindulge. It's the responsibility of the physician to not over Medicare their patients and that's what was going on.
The show did go into detail with what was happening. They were pushing drugs onto people who didnt need to take them over other better/safer methods and flooding the market with drugs.
These were done at specialized pain clinics in Florida that people would travel to because Florida laws were so lax.
Also, not sure how often it happens these days but I remember in a previous episode the pharmacy companies are giving kickbacks to doctors. Sending them on nice vacations and shite.
Overall, not good
BTW, the report did say that hundreds of doctors have been jailed for this over the last decade.
The show did go into detail with what was happening. They were pushing drugs onto people who didnt need to take them over other better/safer methods and flooding the market with drugs.
These were done at specialized pain clinics in Florida that people would travel to because Florida laws were so lax.
Also, not sure how often it happens these days but I remember in a previous episode the pharmacy companies are giving kickbacks to doctors. Sending them on nice vacations and shite.
Overall, not good
BTW, the report did say that hundreds of doctors have been jailed for this over the last decade.
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:35 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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They did. Shutdown by the feds for giving free chocolate chip cookies to doctors in exchange for viagra scripts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:36 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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But there is a flip side to that argument. For example a patient has a shoulder surgery. Doctor says, “Hey I have these pills that I could give you so you wouldn’t have to be in pain for the next 6 weeks but since some highschool kids in an upscale suburban neighborhood have been ODing on illegal drugs in the same class, you are just going to have to take Tylenol and man up”
That is a horrible example.
The whole problem is that doctors prescribe patients all of these addictive pain meds. They continue to take them although they do not need them for pain anymore, because... They are addicted.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:40 pm to OweO
Exactly. And that piece of shot knew they were addicted and kept writing prescriptions for them. A pregnant woman with a prescription for 100 pills and another person with a prescription for 60 pills per day for more than 4 years. He knew they were being sold on the black market and didn’t give a shite because he was making $6K per day doing it.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:47 pm to Clutch Cargo
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Exactly. And that piece of shot knew they were addicted and kept writing prescriptions for them. A pregnant woman with a prescription for 100 pills and another person with a prescription for 60 pills per day for more than 4 years. He knew they were being sold on the black market and didn’t give a shite because he was making $6K per day doing it.
He wasn't even trying to hide it. And then he blamed it on the guy's lecture he attended. That guy was a shite bag as well because he admitted to knowing what he was going around telling people, was not true. He was hired by pharmaceuticals to go around and give pro-opioid speeches.
The pharmaceuticals knew what they were doing. Their number one goal is to keep the stockholders happy. They have to increases profit. To increase profit, you increase sales. It's not that difficult to understand why this would be done.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:49 pm to Clutch Cargo
If he’s not getting a kick back on the scripts why prescribe so many at once? Wouldn’t you want to subscribe fewer and make them come back in for more office visits?
I know it’s shaddy business but I don’t understand why they prescribing so many without kickbacks somewhere.
I know it’s shaddy business but I don’t understand why they prescribing so many without kickbacks somewhere.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:54 pm to GoldenSombrero
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If he’s not getting a kick back on the scripts why prescribe so many at once? Wouldn’t you want to subscribe fewer and make them come back in for more office visits?
I know it’s shaddy business but I don’t understand why they prescribing so many without kickbacks somewhere.
This article provides some insight.
LINK
Posted on 9/30/18 at 9:56 pm to athenslife101
Just wait till all our doctors are bad.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 10:00 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:A lot of dirty doctors like that will charge 250+ cash per visit. Some will charge $500 the first time and even give you an MRI that's fake for the person who's receiving but actually was taken from a legitimate patient.
No doubt this guy was a bad doctor, but can you explain what monetary gain he received for writing prescriptions?
And I speak from experience. I got hit head on by a drunk driver out at LSU and was overprescribed pain meds. I liked them and I eventually became addicted to them and started doctor shopping. Of course, this was before a lot of the regulations were in place that they have now days.
I'm not blaming the doctors for my addiction. However, them prescribing me way too much definitely got the ball rolling. Then, the dirty ones kept it going. I could go to some of them, pay cash and get 120 roxys, 120 percs, 90 Xanax bars, 180 somas and 90 adderall. This was a major problem about 10 years ago.
Posted on 9/30/18 at 10:04 pm to OweO
I get that. And to date, according to the report, no pharmaceutical execs or the middle-men distributors have gone to prison. They should.
I’m all for legalizing weed. I’m not a fan of the so-called war on drugs. And I have two sisters who are nurses in chronic pain management hospitals. It is the job of the medical professionals to keep their patients from becoming addicts.
Opioids kill. And these aren’t deranged junkies that are getting hooked. It often is people with legitimate medical issues who need medications. But this guy damn sure knew that he was over prescribing to a grotesque degree. And his patients were getting hooked.
The pharmaceutical companies damn well know what’s going on. In Alabama alone, there are enough opioid prescriptions written for every man, woman and child to have two and a half active prescriptions. In Florida, there were enough opioid pills shipped there in one year for every man, woman and child to have 25 pills. That’s insane. This shite is ruining families and is the biggest reason people are turning to heroine and fyntenal.
The people in the suits, big pharmaceutical execs and the doctors running pill mills are no different from the cartels. Greed is powering them and they should be held accountable.
I’m all for legalizing weed. I’m not a fan of the so-called war on drugs. And I have two sisters who are nurses in chronic pain management hospitals. It is the job of the medical professionals to keep their patients from becoming addicts.
Opioids kill. And these aren’t deranged junkies that are getting hooked. It often is people with legitimate medical issues who need medications. But this guy damn sure knew that he was over prescribing to a grotesque degree. And his patients were getting hooked.
The pharmaceutical companies damn well know what’s going on. In Alabama alone, there are enough opioid prescriptions written for every man, woman and child to have two and a half active prescriptions. In Florida, there were enough opioid pills shipped there in one year for every man, woman and child to have 25 pills. That’s insane. This shite is ruining families and is the biggest reason people are turning to heroine and fyntenal.
The people in the suits, big pharmaceutical execs and the doctors running pill mills are no different from the cartels. Greed is powering them and they should be held accountable.
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