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These Dates in History - June 19 and 20, 1944
Posted on 6/19/18 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 6/19/18 at 4:26 pm
The Great Marianas Turkey Shoot aka the Battle of the Philippine Sea.
The Japanese had launched 373 planes from its carriers and only 130 returned – nearly a two-thirds rate of loss. Only 102 were serviceable to any degree. Only 29 Americans planes were destroyed.
A carrier fleet without planes was useless. The Battle of the Philippine Sea effectively spelt the end of whatever carrier strength the Japanese Navy had.
A Navy pilot from Bogalusa, George R Carr, flying a Hellcat off the Essex, had five confirmed kills in one hour during that battle.
The Japanese had launched 373 planes from its carriers and only 130 returned – nearly a two-thirds rate of loss. Only 102 were serviceable to any degree. Only 29 Americans planes were destroyed.
A carrier fleet without planes was useless. The Battle of the Philippine Sea effectively spelt the end of whatever carrier strength the Japanese Navy had.
A Navy pilot from Bogalusa, George R Carr, flying a Hellcat off the Essex, had five confirmed kills in one hour during that battle.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 7:00 am
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 4:30 pm to blueridgeTiger
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In one day's fighting within 17 minutes, Carr shot down five Japanese bombers and returned safely. On the return to his carrier, he said he counted 17 oil slicks from downed enemy planes and quit counting.
Bogalusa boy
Posted on 6/19/18 at 4:38 pm to blueridgeTiger
June 19th-20th, 1944, Battle of the Philippine Sea:
6/19/44:
IJN Carrier Taiho Sunk
IJN Carrier Shokaku Sunk
6/20/44:
IJN Carrier Hiyo Sunk
It was a good couple of days for US!
6/19/44:
IJN Carrier Taiho Sunk
IJN Carrier Shokaku Sunk
6/20/44:
IJN Carrier Hiyo Sunk
It was a good couple of days for US!
Posted on 6/19/18 at 7:33 pm to Walt OReilly
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Bogalusa boy
The Bogalusa airport is named after him: the George R Carr Memorial Air Field.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 7:35 pm to blueridgeTiger
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:02 pm to soccerfüt
I believe a US sub (USS Darter or Dace, can't remember) torpedoed the Taiho.
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 1:39 am
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:23 pm to blueridgeTiger
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Essex
One of my uncles was on Essex. He went through a lot, including kamikaze attacks but said the scariest was during Halsey's typhoons with blue water breaking over the flight deck.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:52 pm to blueridgeTiger
June 19th, 1900 My grandmother Ruby was born......June 21, 2000 she passed on. Sorry for changing subject :-)
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:54 pm to RobDione
quote:just did barely make that ole century mark
June 19th, 1900 My grandmother Ruby was born......June 21, 2000 she passed on
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:56 pm to blueridgeTiger
quote:the wat?
The Bogalusa airport
Posted on 6/19/18 at 11:06 pm to Kafka
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June 19th, 1900 My grandmother Ruby was born......June 21, 2000 she passed on
just did barely make that ole century mark
She smoked one cigarette/day and drank one Old Fashioned/day until she went to the nursing home at 99. She turned 100 and said "this is wayyy tooo boring, I'll be leaving"
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 6/20/18 at 7:03 am to Jim Rockford
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Essex
One of my uncles was on Essex. He went through a lot, including kamikaze attacks
A few weeks ago I met a WWII vet who had served aboard the Essex during this battle. After thanking him for his service I asked if he knew Lt. Carr. He told me he never met any of the pilots aboard the vessel, that he had been an 18 yo sailor manning an AA gun trying to knock kamikazes out of the sky and didn't have time to socialize.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:29 am to blueridgeTiger
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A Navy pilot from Bogalusa, George R Carr, flying a Hellcat off the Essex, had five confirmed kills in one hour during that battle
He was balls to the walls and had no fear. He didn't want to have to go back to Bogalusa.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:51 am to blueridgeTiger
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The Japanese had launched 373 planes from its carriers and only 130 returned
I have read that this late in the war the Japanese were putting barely trained pilots in their planes resulting in high loss rates. At one point they were only training the Kamikaze pilots to take off and not how to land. They would tack weld their plane canopies shut on the flight deck and didn’t issue them parachutes to deter them from bailing out. That is some kind of messed up.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:58 am to RobDione
Sounds like great gal!!
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:45 am to jbgleason
The Kamikaze air campaign started after this.
But yeah the only jap pilots that survived this were the vets from pearl harbor. Their machines were outdated. They couldn't make good on aircrew or craft losses.
Meanwhile American aircrews were being trained by vets cycled back and given better and better aircraft and torpedos that worked. Hell I think enemy action over both days accounted for 20 crew lost and most our guys were lost ditching at night after we swarmed their fleet like Independence Day.
Bull was on rotation back, they had Fletcher running things to keep sight of the forest.
But yeah the only jap pilots that survived this were the vets from pearl harbor. Their machines were outdated. They couldn't make good on aircrew or craft losses.
Meanwhile American aircrews were being trained by vets cycled back and given better and better aircraft and torpedos that worked. Hell I think enemy action over both days accounted for 20 crew lost and most our guys were lost ditching at night after we swarmed their fleet like Independence Day.
Bull was on rotation back, they had Fletcher running things to keep sight of the forest.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 11:09 am to ZappBrannigan
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The Kamikaze air campaign started after this.
True, but she took a hit later at Leyte Gulf - the WWII vet and I didn't discuss any particular battle.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 11:39 am to blueridgeTiger
I just read the entire Wikipedia page on this. Thanks, any other interesting WW2 shite show battles the US put on would be welcomed
Posted on 6/20/18 at 11:43 am to Walt OReilly
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Bogalusa boy
Was he a Bosite or Flame?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 12:21 pm to ZappBrannigan
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Meanwhile American aircrews were being trained by vets cycled back and given better and better aircraft and torpedos that worked.
This was one of the major mistakes both the Japanese and Germans made in WWII. While the US rotated veteran pilots back to the states to use their combat experience to teach new generations of pilots, the Germans & Japanese kept their veteran pilots in combat. And while this allowed their top pilots to rack up very impressive personal kill tallies, it also meant the valuable lessons they could teach new pilots were never passed down.
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