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re: There aren’t enough skilled workers and guys under 40 willing to work with their hands
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:28 pm to Arthur Bach
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:28 pm to Arthur Bach
Kids today have been taught to tiktok instead of work. This isn't surprising.
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Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:34 pm to Arthur Bach
2 generations of men have had their arms and legs blown off and brains scrambled in useless wars in countries unworthy of a single drop of American blood.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:51 pm to cgrand
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this thread is about skilled labor. Skilled
Most of these people don't have any clue what skilled labor is. They may still call painters, roofers, plumbers and welders skilled labor but they aren't anymore.
If you don't know about robotics, plc and ladder logic, hydraulics,etc you are no longer skilled labor in an employers eyes.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:07 pm to ragincajun03
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welders folks can make a hell of a living these days
For the past decade, I have heard about the mythical $70,000 welder.
Whenever I ask someone who hires welders about that pay scale, their answer has ALWAYS been, "Well, they start at $40,000, and they work up to $70,000."
Um, no, they probably don't.
College buddy put his stepson through welding school. Guy moved to Florida. 40K.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:16 pm to exiledhogfan
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Um, no, they probably don't.
College buddy put his stepson through welding school. Guy moved to Florida. 40K.
They do but the misconception is that they are welders when in reality they are most likely boilermakers or pipefitters.
Kind of like calling a carpenter a nailer.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:17 pm to Clames
Who raised em tough guy? Bunch of absent workaholics.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:19 pm to exiledhogfan
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College buddy put his stepson through welding school. Guy moved to Florida. 40K.
Guys that weld dumpsters don't make the same as guys that weld shite in power plants.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:38 pm to Bayou Brat
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hence the trans phenomenon plaguing our lives.
It ain't plaguing my life, but then again I don't give a damn what other people do with theirs.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:40 pm to exiledhogfan
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College buddy put his stepson through welding school. Guy moved to Florida. 40K.
Welders in a steel fab shop or assembly situation aren't making the money of guys in the field.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:48 pm to baldona
I have never seen an Indian guy work in construction.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Welders in a steel fab shop or assembly situation aren't making the money of guys in the field.
And they aren't skilled labor.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Welders in a steel fab shop or assembly situation aren't making the money of guys in the field.
but that distinction isn't getting made; it's "welders" make 70k
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:55 pm to exiledhogfan
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that distinction isn't getting made; it's "welders" make 70k
Who's making that distinction and why?
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I talked to a guy a a recent appliance convention. He had a shop in Alaska. Was telling me what the service call and hourly rates were. 300k per technician was possible.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:06 pm to rooster108bm
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Most of these people don't have any clue what skilled labor is. They may still call painters, roofers, plumbers and welders skilled labor but they aren't anymore. If you don't know about robotics, plc and ladder logic, hydraulics,etc you are no longer skilled labor in an employers eyes.
Most of this thread has been about construction, you are talking about manufacturing. Completely different. Most of those jobs are with international companies that could have massive training programs if they wanted.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:09 pm to Napoleon
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I talked to a guy a a recent appliance convention. He had a shop in Alaska. Was telling me what the service call and hourly rates were. 300k per technician was possible.
Yeah, you can make great money here but the cost of living will also slide up the scale.
Alaska is a huge union state so blue collar wages are good, but everything is very expensive.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:11 pm to baldona
There aren't enough workers of any kind, period.
Its largely demographic, and it'll only get worse for a while; COVID drove tens of millions of Baby Boomers out of the employment market, and for those that didn't go away, the next decade is going to continue to see labor replacement shortfalls because there simply aren't enough younger people.
Its largely demographic, and it'll only get worse for a while; COVID drove tens of millions of Baby Boomers out of the employment market, and for those that didn't go away, the next decade is going to continue to see labor replacement shortfalls because there simply aren't enough younger people.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:18 pm to baldona
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Most of this thread has been about construction, you are talking about manufacturing. Completely different. Most of those jobs are with international companies that could have massive training programs if they wanted.
I've worked both.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:22 pm to exiledhogfan
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but that distinction isn't getting made; it's "welders" make 70k
Maybe average, after factoring in various welding trades. Former coworkers husband makes 190k in Valdez at the pipeline terminal.
Welding is more of a skill than profession or occupation.
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Maybe average,
Average welder is making nowhere near 70k.
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