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re: Theological question

Posted on 5/27/23 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by DocSavage
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 1:42 pm to
If God exists, then God's omnipotent power makes us slaves to his will at the most fundamental levels of reality.

However, by allowing us to have free will over the personal relationship between us and Himself, He creates the possibility of true love from us, and at the same time, the possibility of true rejection from us.

Without free will we are just slaves to His will and no possibility of a true love relationship exists between us.

Free will leads to good and evil choices.

By His plan, we have all been reconcileed with God as to any mistakes or acts of ignorance or misunderstanding that we commit during our short time on earth due to this free will state. God Himself paid our penalty owed to His omnipresent measure of what is just and right. Jesus(God as man) was always coming to earth for that reason, from the beginning.

Destiny is not created, it is simply the facts of your choices, that are known by God from before time began. However, left to your own devices, the only result is an empty death. 100% of the time, no exceptions. The good news is, despite all previous choices, your destiny can be recreated in a moment.

Judas wasn't created to betray Jesus. Despite God's foreknowledge of what his choices would be, he was given the choice to not betray Jesus. He could have surrendered control and had faith in God. Unfortunately, the life choices Judas had made up to that point, along with his fear, pride, and greed, influenced the choice he would make in that moment.

Our created nature is selfish, and independent minded.
This is what is meant by a sinful nature from birth.
Adam was the first sinful man in this way and we all are copies of him. Eve is not to blame for our sinful nature, she is a direct copy of Adam also.

This sin capable nature is how we were created so that we could become more than slaves and grow from selfish, and independently righteous animals, incapable of truly honest relationships, into selfless and Godly creatures capable of true love.

The miracle happens when we, just like Judas, are truly trapped in our choices, but we surrender our control by simply believing that God can deliver us from the destiny of death that those choices will ultimately bring us to.

By the singular act of truly believeing, we begin to make choices guided by His Holy Spirit(helper) that are inline with God's alternative destiny for us.

So we have God's plan.

Before time begins. God being the ultimate Judge, provides a substitute for any crimes committed in the future. That is Himself in human form.

God then created, mankind, capable of rebellion against his will.

Throughout history God begins revealing Himself to mankind so as to have a relationship and to finish the process of creation.

When man developed an optimal level of knowledge of God, the substitute is revealed(Jesus).

Simply believe in Him and the created sinful nature is replaced with His nature. A free will that choses, based on the guidance of the Holy Spirit. (This is how Jesus lived His life) A new creation, born again into an eternal life in a loving relationship with its Creator. Death no longer has meaning.

When we reject Jesus's substitution for us. We remain trapped in our own choices Just as Judas was, leading us to a death that is eternally empty of God's presence, exactly as chosen.

When we simply believe in Him, all our choices are forgotten. The thief on the cross found himself at the end of a lifetime of choices, but he looked at the man next to Him, and his eyes were opened by the power of the Holy Spirit so that he saw that He truly was God in human form, and that thief's destiny was instantly changed.

All of us, no matter our time or place in history, have moments where our hearts, minds, eyes and ears are opened by the Holy Spirit to the truth, and we either reject it and stay in our own death ended destiny or become renewed, reborn, and destined for eternal life.



Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12480 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 2:09 pm to
Very well stated. Unfortunately this thread has been anchored. The message of the Gospel seems to offend certain administrators of this site.
This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 2:11 pm
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