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The international Putin fan club
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:33 pm
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Trump is not alone. Trump’s views echo those of a number of other political figures in the United States. In 2013, former Republican presidential candidate Pat Buchanan asked on his blog, “Is Putin One of Us?” Putin has a point, he wrote, when he asserts that the “’destruction of traditional values’” has been “imposed undemocratically.” Putin, he wrote, “may be seeing the future with more clarity than Americans still caught up in a Cold War paradigm.”
Putin also has many admirers on the right in Europe. Hungary’s prime minister, Viktor Orban, cites Russia (and China and Turkey) as models of the “illiberal state,” based on “national foundations” and achieving economic success. Nigel Farage, leader of Britain’s UKIP party, called Putin the world leader he most admired, “as an operator, but not as a human being.” French National Front Leader Marine LePen, Geert Wilders of the Dutch Freedom Party, and other leaders of European far-right parties have condemned the European Union and the United States for “encircling” Russia. LePen’s party has acknowledged receiving a $10 million loan from Russia, suggesting that her sympathies are requited. Russian oligarchic funds have also been lavished on allies in Greece and elsewhere. What’s in this for Putin? Russia’s efforts to cultivate support among Europe’s anti-EU fringe movements are not part of an effort to propagate a “Putinist” ideology, but rather are aimed at weakening and dividing the European Union.And Russia’s fellow-travelers have done well in the past few years. Thanks to broad-based frustrations with centrist responses to the challenges of recession and slow growth, immigration, and terrorism, their fortunes have thrived.
In Putin’s Russia, the extreme nationalists have found in Putin’s Russia a tactically useful counterweight against the traditional American-European liberal democratic alliance.But more is going on than geopolitics. Many on the right project their idealized conception of leadership onto Putin: decisiveness, ruthlessness, pragmatism, manliness. In truth, Putin does have many skills as a political leader. He is extremely well informed on a wide range of subjects (indeed, he would put many American candidates to shame) and he is capable of explaining difficult issues to the public in a simple and persuasive way. He has a quick, acid wit, and immense self-discipline. He is a skillful tactician, maintaining ties with the multiple factions competing for power and wealth (as they say in Russia, “the Kremlin has many towers”) and keeping opponents off balance with unexpected initiatives.Bold, unscrupulous and calculating leadership, unfettered by a moral compass, fits a certain Machiavellian mold to which right-wing politicians have long been attracted. European fascism in the 20s and 30s elevated the leadership principle to the status of an ideology. Fascism responded to a populist longing for order in a world out of joint.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:36 pm to RedRifle
Tldr..... What a wasteful wall of text..... If only there were a board for this..... Wait .. What ?
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:44 pm to RedRifle
Didn't read.
I assume you are the president of this organization?
I assume you are the president of this organization?
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:06 pm to RedRifle
Far right parties in Europe are nuts. Their support is not a good thing.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:07 pm to RedRifle
Trump and Putin have one thing in common; they are both despots at heart.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:29 pm to MasterofTigerBait
No they're not. They're the last stand in keeping Europe staying European.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:32 pm to RedRifle
frick Vladimir Putin. KGB piece of shite.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:33 pm to MasterofTigerBait
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Far right parties in Europe are nuts. Their support is not a good thing.
Yes, because the leftists who have allowed their countries to be overrun by foreigners who have no respect for their way of life and bend over backwards to accommodate them at the peril of their own citizens are so much better.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:41 pm to fr33manator
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Yes, because the leftists who have allowed their countries to be overrun by foreigners who have no respect for their way of life and bend over backwards to accommodate them at the peril of their own citizens are so much better.
There is a movement afoot.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:44 pm to RedRifle
A certain amount of nationalism can be good for a people. To have pride in your country and see your leaders as strong men who will fight for you.
The western world as a whole has grown fat and weak while the Muslim hordes have been sharpening their knives. Now they have begun to plunge them in. Whether we can wake up in time to staunch the bleeding has yet to be seen
The western world as a whole has grown fat and weak while the Muslim hordes have been sharpening their knives. Now they have begun to plunge them in. Whether we can wake up in time to staunch the bleeding has yet to be seen
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:50 pm to fr33manator
Putin and LePen have tapped into this frustration. Liberals call it close mindedness. But it's a longing for a country to be great again. For France to exert its influence in Africa. For Russia to flex it bear muscle. For the us to lead not be told what to do.
The reason so many of us lik Putin is because we want a leader who is proud of being the big strong guy in the room. Not he wallflower hipster hiding in the corner.
The reason so many of us lik Putin is because we want a leader who is proud of being the big strong guy in the room. Not he wallflower hipster hiding in the corner.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:52 pm to RedRifle
What a weird internet persona you've built. Stalking Putin?
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:27 am to RedRifle
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They're the last stand in keeping Europe staying European.
Given the chance Putin would take over all of Europe.
Russian values =/= As Western Europe.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 9:41 am to StraightCashHomey21
History shows that the expansion drive has been the other way. From Napoleon to Bismarck to Hitler.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 9:51 am to RedRifle
This is one of the odder shticks on Tigerdroppings.
Maybe you and the Randall guy can do a cross over episode one of these days.
Maybe you and the Randall guy can do a cross over episode one of these days.
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