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re: The gloves are off regarding St. George...

Posted on 1/12/14 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 9:53 pm to
No one will say they'll increase. There's discrepancy about the money bc it seems complicated.

IMO, a high percentage of st George is ready and willing to pay.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 9:55 pm to
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Who is "they"? One stupid councilwoman?

She's pretty much the leading voice for your side.


Um, no she isn't. People want to harp the stupid comments INDIVIDUALS have here and there, as if it speaks for everyone who lives in BR.

Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 9:56 pm to
Sandy Springs Ga

A great article about a town of 94k people who incorporated. The similarities between their incorporation and ours are crazy. The only major difference is they wanted theirs to keep their money local. We want a school district.

The senate president pro temp, Sharon Broome said we had to become a city to get our own school district. And here we are
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 9:57 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/25/14 at 1:51 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 9:58 pm to
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It doesn't even take a smart person to realize the issue that people have with bussing kids around to keep with the deseg order

*sigh*

Parish wide bussing for deseg purposes ended in 2008 when the Justice Dept settled the NAACP suit with the EBR school system.

Bussing now is only for magnet schools and to distribute students to available classroom space. The temp closure of Lee High is still creating issues with available classroom space, especially in the Gardere area. Hopefully Lee High will be fully reopened next school year and that will help take some Gardere students off of Woodlawn, some WHS area students can return from Tara and WHS will be a "neighborhood" school again.

Comments like this make people who are trying to follow the conversation and hear all sides just shake our heads and now I doubt anything you've said.

Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 9:58 pm to
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Um, no she isn't. People want to harp the stupid comments INDIVIDUALS have here and there, as if it speaks for everyone who lives in BR.


Wasn't she elected to speak for one seventh of the parish? I think she was.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20657 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 9:58 pm to
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Look at the budget in regard to the money machine.


Why can't you be specific?

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And Marcelle has made herself a spokesperson of the anti-St. George movement. She keeps talking and unless someone shuts her up, her dumb comments will hang on the necks of the anti-St. George movement like sausages in a smokehouse.


So because this one woman makes stupid comments, that greater validates the notion of incorporation?
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16888 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:00 pm to
We are too spread out for that kind of utopia.
Gardere laughs at one part time judge
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Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16888 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:02 pm to
I agree. I'm willing to pay double my property taxes if it means improvement. And my kids will stay in private schools.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15803 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:02 pm to
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Bussing now is only for magnet schools and to distribute students to available classroom space. The temp closure of Lee High is still creating issues with available classroom space, especially in the Gardere area. Hopefully Lee High will be fully reopened next school year and that will help take some Gardere students off of Woodlawn, some WHS area students can return from Tara and WHS will be a "neighborhood" school again.
why is there a transfer station on North Sherwood Forest? Where do those kids come from and where do they go?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135350 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:03 pm to
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This whole thing makes no sense to me. Why wouldn't the taxes increase?

This is probably the most objective and accurate statement made by someone with ZERO connections to either side in this entire thread. Congrats!
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20657 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:05 pm to
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It doesn't even take a smart person to realize the issue that people have with bussing kids around to keep with the deseg order.




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You think Woodlawn now and and a future SG Woodlawn with kids that just live in a near vicinity redrawn district would be the same?


Once Lee High re-opens, Woodlawn will be just the latter you described.


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BTW, that's been happening for 30 years. Why are you concerned now? That's the problem. Your leadership has sat on its arse for 30 years and now others want a shot at running things themselves.


Well, in the last ten years there has been a lot of reinvestment in downtown and it is beginning to close the gap with LSU. And which specific leadership has been sitting on its arse? Not the current mayor.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135350 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:05 pm to
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why is there a transfer station on North Sherwood Forest? Where do those kids come from and where do they go?
That was answered previously in this thread. Twice, I think. It has nothing to do with bussing for deseg purposes.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135350 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:07 pm to
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Wasn't she elected to speak for one seventh of the parish?

Care to explain your "one seventh" comment? It makes no sense to me.
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5163 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:08 pm to
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So because this one woman makes stupid comments, that greater validates the notion of incorporation?


The very first post in this thread has a link to an article. The article outlined how members of the council tried three chicken shite moves

Stack the St George fire department leadership with brpd people because the current leadership is pro incorporation

Stop anyone from Zachary, Central, or the unincorporated area from working for ebrp or be proper

Lock in the money from the unincorporated area paid to the city budget for ten years to stop incorporation.


This behavior is galvanizing the people of the unincorporated area against the perceived elite.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20657 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:09 pm to
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I don't think st George wants to be a "city" with a downtown, etc. I think they want to be a self governing rural area. So I doubt they'll be competing with BR on that level. They'll still spend their money downtown, etc. It should still continue to develop.
Idk I'm trying to read up all I can and be informed on both sides. It's confusing bc no one knows what could happen.


Maybe so. But what about areas like the Garden District, Capital Heights, Perkins Overpass area, Southdowns, etc. What if these areas, some of which are the near the borderline of bad areas start to go downhill? Don't know if they would or not. But the last thing I'd want is the swath of urban decay that is North BR to encroach any further than it is. It could catch up eventually.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12165 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:10 pm to
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I have to say, I'm starting to understand why the SG leaders say anything without concern for truthfulness. It seems to be a behavioral pattern with many SG residents.
Here we go again. Russian with personal attacks. Like clockwork.
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Two lies.
And this again. I'll respond the same way.
You post circumstantial evidence of per capita taxation of other areas and assume it will directly correlate with SG. If you claim central is a valid comparison. I'll claim Sandy Springs, GA as one.

Until you can provide a definitive budget, it's just your speculation, which isn't worth much.
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Do you think a kid will think, "Oh, wait, this is the SG school district now. I going to be a good boy!"?
sigh.
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Posted by dewster: The fear mongering and race baiting resonate with some people. We've seen some usually level headed posters get entrenched and emotionally vested in this issue on both sides.
Here's a cute little fear mongering plus race baiting post by Russian all in one.
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No matter who claims what about the reasons for splitting off, it all comes back to some white parents don't want their little darlings sitting in a classroom that has more than two or three black kids in the classroom.
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Posted by extremetigerfanatic: I don't have a dog in the fight as I live outside EBR, but comments like this make people who are trying to follow the conversation and hear all sides just shake our heads and now I doubt anything you've said.
Well said. I'm glad you can see through his act.
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5163 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:10 pm to
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Care to explain your "one seventh" comment? It makes no sense to me.


Aren't there 7 council people? If not, she represents 1/whatever number of council people.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20657 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:11 pm to
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Wasn't she elected to speak for one seventh of the parish? I think she was.





You do know that there are twelve members of the metro council?
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12165 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:12 pm to
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Well, in the last ten years there has been a lot of reinvestment in downtown
Too bad the schools still suck.
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And which specific leadership has been sitting on its arse?
I'll take the EBR School Board for 400, Alex.
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