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The Faithful Executioner

Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:49 pm
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:49 pm
So I’m reading this biography on an executioners from the 1500s/1600s when LAW is really starting to become a thing. And it’s a real interesting look into how society developed. I’m still early on butnhere are some historical thoughts. (This is not a book board topic btw, this is an enlightened OT board topic)

Prior to the early modern periods, most laws were designed how to stop blood feuds which would wreck society. But as the importance of the governments grew, the more the governments realized that not fully controlling the legal process left dangers. So many cities created offical posts for executioners.

Being an executioner sucked. They were considered an untouchable class of person. They actually did do pretty well for themselves though. They could be considered middle class. But they were barred from churches and public buildings and holidays and such. Most execution positions passed down from father to son because sons couldn’t get any other work due to the dishonor of their family having an executioner in it.

Executioners were torturers and the legal code was technically supposed to have strict legal enforcement on when torture was permissible. But what was permissible was usually up to the lawyers who would not be physically present. They would listen to interrogations through a pipe . If the executioner wanted to stop an interrogation the lawyers had the right to overrule him and order him to continue.

Executioners were often able to read and write. And they progressed up the career ladder by networking and getting references.

Still early on. There may be a part 2 or 3!!!!
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 8:50 pm
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Gramercy
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

 There may be a part 2 or 3


yay
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:53 pm to
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There may be a part 2 or 3!!!!



Posted by Slevin7
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:01 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 9:02 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:02 pm to
I read a little bit about the German penal system. When the Nazis took over they kept the Weimar executioners who in turn kept working for the Allied occupation after the war was over.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:03 pm to
Talk about failing upwards
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 9:03 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:05 pm to
The title made me think this was going to be a serial killer thread. Disappointed.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:17 pm to
Excellent topic. Have you listened to Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History Painfotainment?
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20643 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:31 pm to
Yeah, I heard it. This is one of the books mentioned in that. This is more of a biography than anything else. I’ll get into it later.


About hardcore history...This is a bit.... less reactionary than that. I really love Dan Carlin but he will be the first to tell you he isn’t s historian and he will sometimes stretch a bit with his conclusions. It’s nice reading this from a slightly more analytical/academic approach.
Posted by bootyswamper
Paulina KopKop
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:38 pm to
Not sure how much you are into Louisiana history but New Orleans had a executioner by the name of Louis Congo.

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Louis Congo, a freed black man, became Louisiana’s official executioner in 1725 and served in that capacity for a dozen years. As the only one in the colony officially sanctioned to conduct executions and torture, Congo delivered punishments such as hanging, chopping off body parts, whipping, and the breaking wheel. In one case, he broke eight slaves on the wheel; in another, he whipped a Frenchman who was accused of assaulting a man with a knife. The color of the condemned did not matter to Congo—he administered punishment to white, brown, and black men with equal intensity. You might think being the sole executioner granted Congo a prestigious role in Louisiana society. Actually, he was pretty much a pariah, as the French considered the job to be lowly and insulting. Being ostracized, Congo had to live at the outskirts of town, which made him very vulnerable. In fact, Congo endured being assaulted twice in his home by slaves angry at his involvement with the colonial authorities


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