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re: The demise of Baton Rouge

Posted on 8/30/25 at 6:33 pm to
Posted by lsufan9193969700
Madisonville
Member since Sep 2003
55861 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 6:33 pm to
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how shitty it has become


2005 called; it says, "Derp!!!!"
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
9166 posts
Posted on 8/30/25 at 6:48 pm to
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im with that guy, you hate it so much just move


Then you’re an idiot that can’t read either.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3234 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:44 am to
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Houseboats are the answer.



I see what you did there…., :)
Posted by dchotard
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
1296 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 1:11 pm to
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Interesting. I wonder what effect on the overall town, if any, if LSU had stricter academic standards and tighter admission qualifications. Maybe it's beyond repair.


Class of 2029 stats:
458 Class Valedictorians
25% of students in the Top 10% of their class
13% increase in students enrolled in Ogden Honors College
3.85 - Average GPA of first-time freshmen

Posted by PelicanState87
Member since May 2024
305 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:47 am to
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Class of 2029 stats:
458 Class Valedictorians
25% of students in the Top 10% of their class
13% increase in students enrolled in Ogden Honors College
3.85 - Average GPA of first-time freshmen


No one said LSU didn't have bright students in its population, we're saying there are a lot of people at LSU that don't belong.
Posted by PelicanState87
Member since May 2024
305 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:50 am to
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Well they are in fact locals, but outside of that we’re saying the same thing.

You cannot thrive in a city where the demographics exceed a certain threshold of low income people.

Once it hits a critical mass it’s a question of when, not if the breakdown will occur.

But that demographic isn’t there because of LSU.

Baton Rouge would be Jackson, MS or Montgomery, AL if LSU wasn’t there.


It's not just low income people that's a problem, it's the value system in the Black community that's a problem as well. Even if BR was mostly Black and middle class it'll be a major problem. Black culture regardless of socio-econmic status has a value system problem. You ever heard that saying you can take the girl out the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto out the girl ... well that's the majority of Black middle class people. Think about it, look at SU Lab. It's a mostly Black middle class private school and it's bad ... from behavior to lazy administrators to test scores ... compare that LSU Lab. It's night and day. Therefore, BR needs an influx of higher income and racial diversity which is not gonna happen. LSU is not enough to save BR.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 9:53 am
Posted by RunninReb
Member since Feb 2023
408 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:04 am to
Look at the trending demographics of BR. They are terrible.

Until there is a drastic and I mean DRASTIC change in those numbers, the decline of BR will continue unabated. It will actually hit a tipping point eventually and the decline will accelerate.

Sadly the only way to flush out a ton of the demographic is via natural or man-made disaster
Posted by PelicanState87
Member since May 2024
305 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:17 am to
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Look at the trending demographics of BR. They are terrible.

Until there is a drastic and I mean DRASTIC change in those numbers, the decline of BR will continue unabated. It will actually hit a tipping point eventually and the decline will accelerate.

Sadly the only way to flush out a ton of the demographic is via natural or man-made disaster


I know they are horrible and trending in the wrong direction at the expense of BR. But a growing Hispanic population isn't necessarily bad honestly, it just will not push the needle strong enough in the right direction. Hispanics for the most part are decent hard-working people ... they undesirables are a VERY small susbset of their population unlike in the African American community.

You forget about gentrification but nobody wants to gentrify BR. That's what is saving Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, and other blue cities in red states. New Orleans was being gentrified but Louisiana is still highly liberal for a red state and the economy sucks there so it won't be as effective as it could be.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 10:20 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20841 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:26 am to
I don’t know anything about the lab school so i can’t comment on that.

What I can comment on is that black two parent families statistically have equal outcomes to white two parent families and that the black upper class people in my neighborhood who are culturally no different than the white people at any of our clubs are great neighbors and friends.

So I would argue that the differential outcomes stem from cultural, family structure and economic factors rather than anything fundamentally racial.

In other words every person gets free will to choose how they want to act, live and educate (or not) their children. We just have a broken inner city culture that absolutely has to be flushed out as it negatively impacts that community and everyone that interacts with it.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129697 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:29 am to
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No one said LSU didn't have bright students in its population, we're saying there are a lot of people at LSU that don't belong.


Yep

One look at all these orientation events and you see a ton of people that shouldnt be in college at all much less the “flagship” university of the state
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129697 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:30 am to
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So I would argue that the differential outcomes stem from cultural, family structure and economic factors rather than anything fundamentally racial.


Completely correct

Color of skin doesnt matter

Culture/upbringing matters
Posted by PelicanState87
Member since May 2024
305 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:38 am to
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What I can comment on is that black two parent families statistically have equal outcomes to white two parent families and that the black upper class people in my neighborhood who are culturally no different than the white people at any of our clubs are great neighbors and friends.


This is incorrect. I'm Black and grew up more middle class .. Black middle class families operate much differently than White middle class families. For one, most Black children from Black middle class families end up in a lower class as adults. That's not the same for White kids. There's a reason, it goes to that Black American value system. Also the majority of schools in Black middle class neighborhoods are below mediocre or at best mediocre. In White middle class neighborhoods they're mostly above average and at worst mediocre. And also Black middle class women are more likely to be single mothers than anybody else in the middle class. IT'S NOT THE SAME AT ALL, NOT EVEN CLOSE! NON-BLACK MIDDLE CLASS HOMES ARE MUCH BETTER

There's a lot of misinformation about the Black middle-class perpetuated by the lying liberal media. I'm giving you the honest truth. We're not the same like you think


See links below for more truth about the Black middle class. It's far worse than everybody else in the same socio-economic group
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This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 10:53 am
Posted by PelicanState87
Member since May 2024
305 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:58 am to
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Culture/upbringing matters


THIS! How much money you have don't matter .. it's culture and upbringing and again most middle class Black families have a very problematic culture and upbringings. The results speak for themselves. Name me one desirable Black middle class neighborhood with good amenities, good public schools, nice streets, and low crime? You can't.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 11:02 am
Posted by RunninReb
Member since Feb 2023
408 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:19 pm to
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You forget about gentrification but nobody wants to gentrify BR. That's what is saving Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, and other blue cities in red states.



People who compare what's going on in BR to other cities nowhere comparable to it does not help fix the problem or understand the true state of affairs.

BR is becoming more like Jackson MS than it is Charlotte or Nashville
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