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The dead EVs in Chicago thready spinoff.... THIS is the way
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:38 am
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:38 am
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:40 am to Meauxjeaux
I think it's a safe bet to assume EVERYONE here is open to EV, but it has to be EV done like this... make a tech, make an innovative use for that tech, role it out and let them market adapt it....
... unlike the current EVtards where everyone else is an idiot because we are 'pushing back' on EV.
... unlike the current EVtards where everyone else is an idiot because we are 'pushing back' on EV.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:42 am to Meauxjeaux
imagine coming down the mountain with all that extra weight.
Also, does that mean the truckers capacity is less with the weight added of the hybrid unit?
Also, does that mean the truckers capacity is less with the weight added of the hybrid unit?
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:47 am to lowhound
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imagine coming down the mountain with all that extra weight. Also, does that mean the truckers capacity is less with the weight added of the hybrid unit?
I'm assuming the revoy would have some breaking mechanism that would supplement the trucks regular system to compensate for the added weight.
For the capacity... good question. Someone in trucking can share if weight capacities are trailer specific or include the tractor?
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:48 am to lowhound
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Also, does that mean the truckers capacity is less with the weight added of the hybrid unit?
I suppose the added axle takes care of the additional weight. So capacity would probably remain the same, but it sure would be a bitch getting into some docks with the added length.
Probably going to be tricky to get used to backing it too.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 10:55 am
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:51 am to Meauxjeaux
Not at all. People should evaluate where the tech is at and see how it fits in their lives. The problem with Chicago was the chargers went down and people could not charge/trickle charge at home. EVs are very popular in Norway and most owners charge at home, have battery blankets, and some of their vehicles have the heat pumps (those are fairly new I believe). Chicago is not like London that has chargers in the streets for people who park there. So this whole "gotcha" thing people want to do is less of a shot at EVs in general and more of a shot at the owners who did not do their due diligence.
As far as this board goes, the pro-ev side thinks just like you. It's become a topic of attack, attack, attack, because someone disagrees with it. We have several expereinced EV drivers and one poster who look at Tesla data yet constructive conversations are hard to come by
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make a tech, make an innovative use for that tech, role it out and let them market adapt it
As far as this board goes, the pro-ev side thinks just like you. It's become a topic of attack, attack, attack, because someone disagrees with it. We have several expereinced EV drivers and one poster who look at Tesla data yet constructive conversations are hard to come by
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 10:54 am
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:52 am to Meauxjeaux
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unlike the current EVtards where everyone else is an idiot because we are 'pushing back' on EV.
Are you pushing back against EVs or pushing back against the government backing of EVs? Because one is logical and one is pretty shortsighted. EVs are going through some growing pains right now but it boggles my mind that many here seem to not be able to grasp the concept that both the technology and the infrastructure will continue to improve.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:55 am to Scuttle But
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grasp the concept that both the technology and the infrastructure will continue to improve
I once said that the technology is only as good as it is today and it is in the stage where it keeps getting better. Imagine if they applied this same train of thought to their toddler. Should you call the kid a lost cause because they are clumsy and lack fine motor skills or do you know that the child will keep growing and learning
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:58 am to Meauxjeaux
Dumb.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:59 am to Meauxjeaux
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For the capacity... good question. Someone in trucking can share if weight capacities are trailer specific or include the tractor?
Weight regulations are Per Axle.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:02 am to auggie
85,000 total
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:09 am to elit4ce05
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85,000 total
Does that still apply with multiple trailers?
I don't know, because I've never pulled more than 1.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:15 am to Scuttle But
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or pushing back against the government backing
Its not government backing, it's government forcing.
Everyone understands the tech will improve.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 11:16 am
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:17 am to lowhound
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Also, does that mean the truckers capacity is less with the weight added of the hybrid unit?
Yes, total weight of load/truck/trailer cannot exceed 80,000lb without requirements of an overweight permit and since you're not allowed to "create" a permit load by adding extra crap(this EV unit) then you'd just have to reduce your payload.
For reference most dry vans can legally scale up to ~45000lb, most flatbeds up to ~47000lb.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:21 am to Meauxjeaux
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Everyone understands the tech will improve.
No, I really don't think they do. Becuase 90% of the posts in the EV threads aren't about the government forcing EVs. They're about EV range or how they don't want to sit for 45 minutes while it charges and there aren't enough charging stations. The vast majority of drivers in the US rarely go more than 50 miles from their home anyway. Except for posters on this board, who apparently all do three or four 500 mile round trips each week while towing 15 tons on supplies uphill both ways in the snow.
EVs are very practical for most people assuming you have a home that you can put a charging port in and don't have to rely on charging stations.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:22 am to YOURADHERE
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Yes, total weight of load/truck/trailer cannot exceed 80,000lb without requirements of an overweight permit and since you're not allowed to "create" a permit load by adding extra crap(this EV unit) then you'd just have to reduce your payload.
For reference most dry vans can legally scale up to ~45000lb, most flatbeds up to ~47000lb.
Pretty sure everything would get amended for this application though.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:31 am to Meauxjeaux
Until someone develops the tech to drastically reduce the footprint of a battery while maintaining or increasing its storage capacity, it’s always going to be an inferior solution whether it’s an EV or Solar panels. As it stands currently, the more power a vehicle needs, the more storage capacity is required. More storage capacity requires larger and larger batteries.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:37 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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Until someone develops the tech to drastically reduce the footprint of a battery while maintaining or increasing its storage capacity, it’s always going to be an inferior solution whether it’s an EV or Solar panels. As it stands currently, the more power a vehicle needs, the more storage capacity is required. More storage capacity requires larger and larger batteries.
Companies are investing billions of dollars for just this purpose
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:40 am to auggie
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Pretty sure everything would get amended for this application though.
Doubtful, what makes you say that? Why would the cap be adjusted for this EV thing?
Posted on 1/18/24 at 11:47 am to YOURADHERE
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Why would the cap be adjusted for this EV thing?
Because the feds are pushing electric vehicles.
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