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re: The Christmas Truce of 1914-with pictures, video, music

Posted on 12/26/15 at 12:45 am to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/26/15 at 12:45 am to
That was seriously awesome.

There's something to be said for a shared cultural heritage that allows for things like that. Things that tie peoples together across language and nationality and ethnicity.

You couldn't get that if the enemy came from a drastically different culture than you without shared values or holidays or common ties that bind.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/26/15 at 12:57 am to
quote:

This generation was a "we" generation, than it became a "me" generation.



This generation is also in the thick of an information revolution in a Long Peace. Things are changing so quick it's hard to keep up. And we are so privileged. So lucky. I'd doubt that any of us truly knows what true hunger is. Or what it's like to have tens of thousands of your countrymen killed week in and week out.

Most of those soldiers were mere boys, thrust into the midst of some of the most brutal fighting ever seen. The war made them. Changed them. Molded them. And they took it back home.

This current generation by and large has no idea of what War actually is. They live comfortable lives with hurt feelings being the biggest threat to their day to day. And are sold sunshine and rainbows from every angle. That everything has to be accepted and the tiny minority must be pandered to.

These things are luxuries not afforded in truly hard times. We lack true leviathan threats. The hardest blades are forged in the hottest fire, and the world we live in today is barely embers.

Maybe we should be thankful that our young people aren't being sent off to die in droves.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:03 am to
Technology, bruh.

Hard to give the ISIS guy a chocolate bar when this is your rule of engagement.

Let's fight!

And don't get me wrong. We have the advantage here and I'm not complaining.

Water is wet.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:19 am to
That's pretty much my point. Both sides on the western front had aspects of shared culture through socio-religious aspect of Christmas. It was that that let the profound beauty of humanity shine through on that cold December day.

It was an unique set of circumstances that we have not seen replicated in scale since.

When an enemy has declared jihad on your culture, when their values are antithetical to yours, when nearly all aspects of culture clash, there aren't warm fuzzies to be had.

And also, as you pointed out, technology has shifted lines of battle. There's a world of difference between pushing a button and blowing up a dozen highlighted enemies versus putting a knife through his chest.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:22 am to
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There's a world of difference between pushing a button and blowing up a dozen highlighted enemies versus putting a knife through his chest.



The latter allot harder for a human to do.

We are no longer in a fight against humans, though. Hence, your third paragraph.

Posted by Real Pirate
NE LA
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/26/15 at 2:10 am to
Thank you for posting this, first I've heard of it.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/26/15 at 6:42 am to
quote:

This generation was a "we" generation, than it became a "me" generation.


100% correct...damn shame too
Posted by Kingwood Tiger
Katy, TX
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 12/26/15 at 7:56 am to
If you are ever in Kansas City, do yourself a favor and visit the WWI Memorial, it is an amazing museum.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/26/15 at 8:02 am to
Hard to believe it's been 101 years since the Christmas Truce. I've always been fascinated by WWI. It's aftershocks live with us to this day. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's the single most transformative world event since the discovery of the new world.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/26/15 at 8:10 am to
We humans are strange creatures.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102787 posts
Posted on 12/26/15 at 9:36 am to
The redrawing of borders in the Middle East after the world wars is one of the main causes of the turmoil there today.

We tried to put too many different ideological groups under 1 country..had we left it alone and let them from their own countries the ME would likely be more peaceful.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134660 posts
Posted on 12/26/15 at 9:48 am to
quote:

We tried to put too many different ideological groups under 1 country..had we left it alone and let them from their own countries the ME would likely be more peaceful.


IMO, it was more the vacuum that was left after the Ottoman Empire crumbled. Although it was already in a steady decline, (called the "sick man of Europe") it was still enough to keep the region mostly in line.

When it fell, and the Other European powers carved it up only to largely abandon it, there was no strong check against the infighting that was bound to occur. That, in addition to the borders you speak of, set the region up for turmoil.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 12/26/15 at 9:48 am to
Nice thread, thanks for posting.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/26/15 at 10:57 am to
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