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re: The 1918 spainish flu (A Tale of Two Cities)
Posted on 3/16/20 at 4:27 pm to JCinBAMA
Posted on 3/16/20 at 4:27 pm to JCinBAMA
I do not intend to be alarmist or incite panic, but only to encourage all to pay attention to the information that is presently available and take the precautions you deem advisable.
Allow me to share this: In 1968-69 a virulent strain of influenza originated in Hong Kong. It was brought to the U.S. by troops returning from Vietnam. It killed over one million people worldwide, and 100,000 in the United States.
I barely survived the "Hong Kong Flu" as a healthy, athletic teenager. For a week I spiked high fevers and was too weak to even sit up. For part of the time I actually lost my vision and what I could see looked like a television test pattern. I thought it was the greatest day of my life when I was able to sit up and look out a window at sunlight.
It seems clear from the available stats that the present virus is more contagious and more deadly. Everyone should take appropriate precautions to avoid exposure and to protect others who are vulnerable, especially your elderly family members. Plan on it being around for a while, as the Hong Kong flu took about six months to run its course, and had some subsequent outbreaks.
Until normalcy returns, make more babe threads or babies, Netflix, Youtube, and chill.
Allow me to share this: In 1968-69 a virulent strain of influenza originated in Hong Kong. It was brought to the U.S. by troops returning from Vietnam. It killed over one million people worldwide, and 100,000 in the United States.
I barely survived the "Hong Kong Flu" as a healthy, athletic teenager. For a week I spiked high fevers and was too weak to even sit up. For part of the time I actually lost my vision and what I could see looked like a television test pattern. I thought it was the greatest day of my life when I was able to sit up and look out a window at sunlight.
It seems clear from the available stats that the present virus is more contagious and more deadly. Everyone should take appropriate precautions to avoid exposure and to protect others who are vulnerable, especially your elderly family members. Plan on it being around for a while, as the Hong Kong flu took about six months to run its course, and had some subsequent outbreaks.
Until normalcy returns, make more babe threads or babies, Netflix, Youtube, and chill.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:04 pm to bbrownso
This isn't 1918. No matter how much the "doom perverts" want it to be. 
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:15 pm to salty1
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This isn't 1918. No matter how much the "doom perverts" want it to be.
I posted that to show how not promoting and following social distancing can cause issues. And that it wasn't propaganda in favor of social restrictions.
While we have advanced medically since then, we still have limited anti-virals (and none that are known to be effective against this illness at this point).
So that limits us to providing supportive care and well, our medical system isn't designed for thousands of nearly simultaneous patients, much less tens or hundreds of thousands.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:18 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Like most stories about Texas, this is exaggerated
It’s only 766 miles from Orange to El Paso, diagonally
Hey, motherfricker, Google ITSELF spat those numbers out.
So, if you wanna go ahead and argue with the smartest algorithm in the world, then be my guest.
But don't blame me if your phone charging cord chokes you to death in your sleep tonight.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:55 pm to RummelTiger
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:34 am to JCinBAMA
While I'm sure this article is true, there's nothing to suggest the coronavirus is the real deal like the Spanish Flu was. Absolutely nothing.
That article says the Spanish Flu killed 4500 people in Philadelphia alone in its first week. According to wiki, Philadelphia's population in 1920 was 1.823 million. 4500 out of 1.8 million, all in the course of one week, is obviously a huge ratio.
Even if Philadelphia was theoretically the site of half the Spanish flu deaths in America during the first week, that would mean 9000 Americans died in the first week. In a country that was less than a third as populated as it is today.
The coronavirus has been in the US, a country of 320 million people, for two and a half weeks, and has killed 85 people.
That article actually makes it extremely clear that if coronavirus was anything to worry about, we'd already have seen huge death tolls in the US. In fact, we'd have already seen huge death tolls a week and a half ago.
We wouldn't simply be mindlessly speculating about how bad coronavirus will be in the future.
That article says the Spanish Flu killed 4500 people in Philadelphia alone in its first week. According to wiki, Philadelphia's population in 1920 was 1.823 million. 4500 out of 1.8 million, all in the course of one week, is obviously a huge ratio.
Even if Philadelphia was theoretically the site of half the Spanish flu deaths in America during the first week, that would mean 9000 Americans died in the first week. In a country that was less than a third as populated as it is today.
The coronavirus has been in the US, a country of 320 million people, for two and a half weeks, and has killed 85 people.
That article actually makes it extremely clear that if coronavirus was anything to worry about, we'd already have seen huge death tolls in the US. In fact, we'd have already seen huge death tolls a week and a half ago.
We wouldn't simply be mindlessly speculating about how bad coronavirus will be in the future.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 10:53 am
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:37 am to salty1
Very few people are even needing hospitalization for coronavirus. Even if we still only had 1918 quality medicine, I doubt coronavirus would be that bad.
While medical care can obviously help you survive coronavirus, it's not like it can do much of anything to prevent you from contacting coronavirus. (Unless we eventually develop a vaccine for coronavirus, which he haven't yet.)
While medical care can obviously help you survive coronavirus, it's not like it can do much of anything to prevent you from contacting coronavirus. (Unless we eventually develop a vaccine for coronavirus, which he haven't yet.)
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 10:42 am
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:37 am to salty1
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If it smells like a duck and walks like a duck...
IT’S A WITCH!!!!!!
Burrrrrnnnnnn hheeeerrrr
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:40 am to JCinBAMA
675,000 Americans did die from the Spanish Flu in 1918---12 times the number of Americans that died in WW1
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:49 am to JCinBAMA
Washington state is to coronavirus what Philadelphia was to the Spanish flu, in terms of the disease being centered there.
Washington state has a population of 7.536 million. After 2.5 weeks, 40 people have died there.
Philadelphia in 1918 had a population of about 1.8 million. After just one week, 4,500 people had died there.
See the difference?
This article actually shows the stupidity of the coronavirus hoopla. These diseases don't go from not even killing in the triple digits after 17 days, to killing in the 6 (or some insist even 7) digits after 5 months.
Washington state has a population of 7.536 million. After 2.5 weeks, 40 people have died there.
Philadelphia in 1918 had a population of about 1.8 million. After just one week, 4,500 people had died there.
See the difference?
This article actually shows the stupidity of the coronavirus hoopla. These diseases don't go from not even killing in the triple digits after 17 days, to killing in the 6 (or some insist even 7) digits after 5 months.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 10:50 am
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