re: Texas High School expels student for not reciting pledge

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i grew up in the south. have family all over the south. i don't know that checks all the boxes you just described.

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I don't have a problem with people loving the Confederate Flag and all that shite. What I have a problem with is those same people preaching about patriotism. I think people should do whatever the frick they want to do as long as they are not harming someone else. Fly that flag all you want you can fly a flag out your arse for all I care. Just don't act as if you are the authority on patriotism.

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i'm not sure i believe you that you don't care if people fly that flag all you want.

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It doesn't bother me it helps me separate the trash from the somewhat decent people.

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i do sense a some resentment from you and others towards those who show patriotism.

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Define patriotism please.

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"Small government conservatives"

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anybody that says and agrees with the pledge is not a small government conservative. I never say the pledge. I will stand and be respectful, but i will not say it. I will for the anthem, but not the pledge.

only an idiot would recite a pledge that essentially strips states of any rights they have with the "indivisible" clause.

and before somebody calls me a commie...frick off, I actually did 6 years in the Army. I am not pledging allegiance a fricked up government like ours nor against our constitution.

Oh and this principal is dumb as hell and going to lose this case and prolly be sued.

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Why is patriotism such an evil thing now?

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Reciting the pledge isn't patriotism. Its propping up the state. Its the things our forefathers warned us against and tried to prevent with the constitution. Its pledging to put the needs of the many above your own.

its pledging that states have no recourse even if a super majority of its citizens believe that the federal government is out of control.

its the most big government anti patriotic socialist BS you can do. Just because you were brained washed doesnt make it the correct thing to do.

Your senses are failing you.

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No, ship out citizens who act disgusted to be a citizen. If it’s so damn bad, then get the frick out. It’s a HUGE world.

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She's not disgusted to be a citizen. She wants to change America to what she believes it should be, as all good citizens should.

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Why the frick do these arse hole make someone recite a pledge every morning. If you pledge to something once you shouldn't have to do it every day of your educational career.

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Reminds me of Catch 22

Wish I could post the entire text, but here's the gist of it.

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When fellow administrative officers expressed astonishment at Colonel Cathcart’s choice of Major Major, Captain Black muttered that there was something funny going on; when they speculated on the political value of Major Major’s resemblance to Henry Fonda, Captain Black asserted that Major Major really was Henry Fonda; and when they remarked that Major Major was somewhat odd, Captain Black announced that he was a Communist.

“They’re taking over everything,” he declared rebelliously. “Well, you fellows can stand around and let them if you want to, but I’m not going to. I’m going to do something about it. From now on I’m going to make every son of a bitch who comes to my intelligence tent sign a loyalty oath. And I’m not going to let that bastard Major Major sign one even if he wants to.”

Almost overnight the Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade was in full flower, and Captain Black was enraptured to discover himself spearheading it. He had really hit on something. All the enlisted men and officers on combat duty had to sign a loyalty oath to get their map cases from the intelligence tent, a second loyalty oath to receive their flak suits and parachutes from the parachute tent, a third loyalty oath for Lieutenant Balkington, the motor vehicle officer, to be allowed to ride from the squadron to the airfield in one of the trucks. Every time they turned around there was another loyalty oath to be signed. They signed a loyalty oath to get their pay from the finance officer, to obtain their PX supplies, to have their hair cut by the Italian barbers. To Captain Black, every officer who supported his Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade was a competitor, and he planned and plotted twenty-four hours a day to keep one step ahead. He would stand second to none in his devotion to country. When other officers had followed his urging and introduced loyalty oaths of their own, he went them one better by making every son of a bitch who came to his intelligence tent sign two loyalty oaths, then three, then four; then he introduced the pledge of allegiance, and after that “The Star-Spangled Banner,” one chorus, two choruses, three choruses, four choruses. Each time Captain Black forged ahead of his competitors, he swung upon them scornfully for their failure to follow his example. Each time they followed his example, he retreated with concern and racked his brain for some new stratagem that would enable him to turn upon them scornfully again.

Without realizing how it had come about, the combat men in the squadron discovered themselves dominated by the administrators appointed to serve them. They were bullied, insulted, harassed and shoved about all day long by one after the other. When they voiced objection, Captain Black replied that people who were loyal would not mind signing all the loyalty oaths they had to. To anyone who questioned the effectiveness of the loyalty oaths, he replied that people who really did owe allegiance to their country would be proud to pledge it as often as he forced them to. And to anyone who questioned the morality, he replied that “The Star-Spangled Banner” was the greatest piece of music ever composed. The more loyalty oaths a person signed, the more loyal he was; to Captain Black it was as simple as that, and he had Corporal Kolodny sign hundreds with his name each day so that he could always prove he was more loyal than anyone else.

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“What makes you so sure Major Major is a Communist?”

“You never heard him denying it until we began accusing him, did you? And you don’t see him signing any of our loyalty oaths.”

“You aren’t letting him sign any.”

“Of course not,” Captain Black explained. “That would defeat the whole purpose of our crusade.

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hard pass. this would be a fruitless exercise.

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You can't define something that you believe wholeheartedly in?

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you have already made it very clear that you have a different idea of what patriotism is than most posters on this website and probably lump a lot of us in with the type of people you described as "Hell the same cousin frickers on here that detest people who "hate america" are the same ones who fly the flag of a group of people who separated themselves from the Union.."

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So in the same run-on sentence you assume I have a different version of what patriotism because I hate hypocrisy, but then go on to cry foul because you believe I lump everyone on this board in the same group. Interesting.

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It doesn't bother me it helps me separate the trash from the somewhat decent people. 

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Based on the statement alone, you show it bothers you.