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re: Texas Governor wants top teachers to earn six figures
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:01 pm to SECdragonmaster
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:01 pm to SECdragonmaster
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am guessing you (or your spouse) must have been one of them because you are so defensive. I dont think we should pay people who were in the bottom quartile of college students 100,000 a year.
My wife IS a teacher. And frick you.
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:05 pm to SECdragonmaster
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am guessing you (or your spouse) must have been one of them because you are so defensive.
I dont think we should pay people who were in the bottom quartile of college students 100,000 a year.
Do you DESERVE your salary? And why?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:13 pm to The Torch
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Most of my kid's teachers have their masters.
With a masters in the field and say 10 years experience is a 100k too much ?
Masters from where though? Masters in Education from a good school vs Univ of PHX is a major difference.
Still need a way to test teachers on being true SMEs, and not just able to read the chapter the day before the lesson. With hand me down tests.
What ever top Private Schools do to hire would be worth the money. Not a teacher that speaks ebonics too.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:17 pm to TOSOV
I didn’t read this whole thing but when they say top teachers they mean top of the pay scale meaning longest tenured. This move would be about raising teacher salaries across the board
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:18 pm to AA77
You literally can’t base a teachers salary on testing scores. Otherwise you wouldn’t have anyone teaching in a low-income or Title I school. Not because the kids aren’t capable but because most parents don’t give a shite about education. They work hourly jobs and have the oldest stay at home with the younger kids because the are working all day, they have kids that are “slow” but don’t take the time to realize it, the speak another language and can’t help them with homework or communicate with their teacher, and so many other factors...how do you think this impacts a child’s learning when they come home? The simple fact is that there is no support at home in these kinds of areas so why would a teacher want to bust her arse knowing that her salary depends on these kids passing a state test when the parents don’t give a shite? I’ve seen it a thousand times. Teachers will flock to higher income areas where they have parental support if their income and livelihood depends on test scores and that leaves the most as risk with teachers that are less skilled and less qualified. It will be a vicious cycle that leaves the most poverty stricken areas at a huge disadvantage.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:22 pm to Collegedropout
The salary is divided over 12 months for the 9 months of work. Who’s the stupid one that can’t comprehend this idea?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:23 pm to lsu1919
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I would pay money to watch a reality show where guys like you had to go to a school and teach for one year. Any subject you wanted too. But not coaching. And not some lily white private school either. I wanna see you teach at a school where when you ask a kid his name his response is "suck my dick".
And you're graded just like any other teacher, on those kids tests scores.
I'd like to see a reality TV show where teachers are forced to make business decisions that will affect the lively hood of hundreds, or perform a job knowing you can and will have high end attorneys pouring over your workpapers. Kids can be shite heads, I get that, but teachers act like their jobs are insanely hard while forgetting this forum is littered with people having more responsibility.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:29 pm to SECdragonmaster
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But just go back to college and ask yourself this question. What type of people majored in education? Were they the people who were ALWAYS at the library studying? Were they the people that were the best and brightest? Were they the people who were the best critical thinkers?
Given that barely any high school science and math teachers have education majors in undergrad(I know one in my district who was an education major, and he has a doctorate as well), you are completely clueless on this issue. Now if you are talking history or perhaps the elementary school level sure, but at the upper levels in Science, math, and typically English people usually have a major in their field.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:33 pm to tigerfoot
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The homework sheet was inaccurate and incomplete. There was an assignment on it that did not exist.
So you say. Given the reading comprehension levels rampant on the Rant, I’m thinking maybe there was more there than what met your eye.
quote:Blaming teachers is the easy, lazy and least productive course of response to any perceived deficiencies, real or not. Going to school board meetings and bringing your legit questions to actual decision makers, and not just fuming and blaming teachers, would be so much more constructive and results oriented.
Given they are the only conduit, yes, it is their fault.
quote:jYou have a lot of misdirected anger and insecurity bottled up inside, and it is spilling out for everyone to see.
You have a large number of excuses...
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:44 pm to Jcorye1
quote:Teachers are not the ones in schools who are making any real business decisions or real policy decisions. That function is held by hired (paid) School Board staff downtown; the buck stops with the Superintendent. Teachers are there to teach children and implement any school board policies or directives that are put in place by the board, and overseen by elected board members. That buck stops with the elected board chairman and each elected board member. But some less informed people mistakenly think the power is in the hands of the teachers. It isn’t. Still some persist in blaming teachers for things teachers in fact have little control over.
I’d like to see a reality TV show where teachers are forced to make business decisions that will affect the lively hood of hundreds, or perform a job knowing you can and will have high end attorneys pouring over your workpapers. Kids can be shite heads, I get that, but teachers act like their jobs are insanely hard while forgetting this forum is littered with people having more responsibility.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 7:25 pm to GeauxGutsy
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Texas teachers health insurance is ridiculously overpriced for a family. I know it's all district specific, but overall it's terrible with high deductibles - A certain district around DFW costs around 1100 - 1200 / month for a family of 4.
That's getting to be the norm. My family health insurance is 1600/month (high deductible health plan). My employer does pay some of that. But insurance is expensive. You can't blame the school district for what Healthcare providers charge for services.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 7:46 pm to Willie Stroker
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What criteria best defines the best teachers Guvna?
This is what I’m wondering. I’m all for them getting paid much more than they do but what factors determine “best” that is reasonably fair to use as indicators?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:20 pm to Starchild
Privatizing parenting is the only solution to America’s educational system’s woes. You can’t throw money at teachers and expect an impact without removing the parents from the equation.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:49 pm to Restomod
Less handouts, higher teacher salaries, better teachers, better educated population, more productive population, higher gdp, less people needing handouts, repeat.
Dat culcha need Dey monies doe, and we gotta make sure the mentally ill who want to be referred to as a pronoun are ok and of course we must ensure no one is offended in the slightest about anything.
Dat culcha need Dey monies doe, and we gotta make sure the mentally ill who want to be referred to as a pronoun are ok and of course we must ensure no one is offended in the slightest about anything.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:23 pm to meansonny
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That's getting to be the norm. My family health insurance is 1600/month (high deductible health plan). My employer does pay some of that. But insurance is expensive. You can't blame the school district for what Healthcare providers charge for services.
No doubt insurance prices have increased, but the insurance cost for teachers in Texas (family cost) has always been extremely expensive. My property taxes have increased 37% in 7 years. Almost 50% of my property taxes goes to the ISD (school district). Let’s not even discuss the 1/2 billion $ bond that was passed for the ISD—not the city-the ISD, or the Texas rainy day fund (no link). Texas has the means to do much better.
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