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re: Teachers are under paid...babysitters make more...

Posted on 5/5/17 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/5/17 at 3:55 pm to
Decent teachers in LA aren't teaching public school they are teaching parochial and private and making 35k
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/5/17 at 4:02 pm to
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Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year. Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here! There sure is!
The average teacher's salary (nation wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student--a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!
Heaven forbid we take into account highly qualified teachers or NCLB...


Standing up for our children's educators, one of the most important people in our kids' lives.....


$8/hour per kid

I guess we're finally admitting that teachers are just baby sitters though. Progress IMO.
Posted by Thacian
USA
Member since Aug 2015
2173 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 4:17 pm to
Na, just proving that even on a very low fee per hour, a baby sitter makes more than a teacher when you compare... fact
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 4:35 pm to
I will totally disagree with that. They have a ton of exceptional teachers in public schools who don't get the credit they deserve. This is mainly because of a shift in society. Now instead of homes helping the teaching aspect it is solely up.to the teacher, behavior is up to the teacher, and teaching morals. We've changed and placed more of a burden on teachers than when many of us where in school.

I will be the first to admit, I think the standards for teachers need to be raised, but I also admit they have plenty of quality teachers who just don't have what they need. Either from parents, the school, the parish, or the state.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 5:53 pm to
That's some BS math right there. Plus, I heard this same argument from a teacher years ago. The school in question was the worst in the state, which was then last in the nation.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65076 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 6:14 pm to
I'm just checkin in to say teachers are overpaid IMO. and they complain too much
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 6:17 pm to
Curious about the overpaid part, how are they overpaid vs other professions besides your biases
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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65076 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 6:19 pm to
I think a ditch digger could do their job.

But a teacher can't dig a ditch or won't for that matter.

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 6:28 pm to
We will.have to disagree, I think it takes a certain temperament for each profession. Not everyone can watch and educate 100 kids a day like I do, also not everyone can put up with the BS a ditch digger has to deal with.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 5/5/17 at 6:39 pm to
Air Conditioning FTW
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 6:42 pm to
As the son of someone who does that work, it is grueling with a lot of OT that isn't worth the pay. Not to mention the constant work in the South. Give me teaching all day, and I know my father doesn't have the patience to deal with what I deal with every day.
Posted by SouthTiger504
Member since Sep 2014
1163 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 6:47 pm to
Teachers make 50k with all the time they get off? Not bad.

I thought it was more around 38-42k
Posted by AjaxFury
In & out of The Matrix
Member since Sep 2014
9928 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 6:48 pm to
TLDR: Boo-hoo i get every summer off feel sorry for me!
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29084 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:05 pm to
It's quite simple really...if people think teachers are shite, then home-school the kid.

Instead of bitching about educators, their salaries, etc, why not support them in their quest to educate your child? After all, they are with them at least 7 hours a day for 5 days a week during the school year, and sometimes longer.

Some people worship the ground a football coach/educator walks on, but then think that the person responsible for teaching Lil' Johnny his math skills shouldn't make dick.

So yeah...if you don't like the way things are, home-school your kid.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:08 pm to
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That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year.


Nobody gets paid as much per person for 30 as they would for a 1:1 ratio. Your math teacher must have been a babysitter.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65076 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:17 pm to
TLDR. Don't you have an identical lesson plan to work on from the previous 10 years?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:38 pm to
No, Curriculum changes every two years so therefore I can not do that unless I want my scores to drop
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29084 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 8:05 pm to
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TLDR. Don't you have an identical lesson plan to work on from the previous 10 years?




Don't read...don't comment.

I don't teach a core class, so leave me out of your ranting and go hunt down your stapler and get busy with those TPS reports.
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
59380 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 8:06 pm to
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TLDR. Don't you have an identical lesson plan to work on from the previous 10 years?


Here's some data for you on the subject:

You are an ignorant ingrate who has no idea of what teachers in today's public education system are expected to do. Kindly frick right off.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 10:27 pm to
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Na, just proving that even on a very low fee per hour, a baby sitter makes more than a teacher when you compare... fact




proving which side of the IQ curve you're on
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