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re: T-Mobile has quietly updated its TOS to include fines for content they don’t agree with
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:55 am to stout
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:55 am to stout
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Amazingly people don't understand that the 1A only applies if the Government restricts your free speech.
I think there could be some gov blowback on this if T-Mobile uses any gov infrastructure. That's probably a long shot though. Best recourse is for people to simply stop using T-Mobile.
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 9:06 am
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Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:56 am to LSURussian
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Because T-Mobile is not the government doing the monitoring.
What gives T Mobile the right to levy and collect fines for behavior they deem unsavory?
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:57 am to stout
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Amazingly people don't understand that the 1A only applies if the Government restricts your free speech.
I’m not well versed but isn’t phone service a type of utility? Aren’t they regulated? I’m ignorant on this stuff just passing what I’ve heard
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:59 am to RealityWinsOut
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Bigger question is why are we being monitored without a warrant
You agreed to it by signing up for their product.
Just use a third party app with encryption and t mobile can't read anything you say.
T mobile is mostly for democrats anyway so I'm fine with this if it puts away some of the riff raff.
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 9:01 am
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:00 am to Rebel
quote:The terms of service for the contract
What gives T Mobile the right to levy and collect fines for behavior they deem unsavory?
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:03 am to AllbyMyRelf
Some contracts are not enforceable
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:04 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
What would be the reason this is unenforceable?
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:05 am to Corinthians420
quote:Yup. This is the solution. Other providers will start doing the same thing as T-Mobile anyway.
Just use a third party app with encryption and t mobile can't read anything you say.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:12 am to AllbyMyRelf
nazis
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:15 am to AllbyMyRelf
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The terms of service for the contract
I don’t think just because it’s in its in the TOS it’s enforceable. Denying service might be enforceable. But levying a punitive fine??
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:16 am to tigersmanager
It looks like this just applies to messaging programs, not to actual users? Am I reading this right (this is from the Vonage link on the 1st page)
quote:
5.1 Unlawful, Unapproved, or Illicit Content
No messaging programs
quote:
Programs must operate
quote:
7 Age Gating
T-Mobile may, at its discretion and at any time, suspend, terminate, or not Approve any Messaging Program
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:17 am to AllbyMyRelf
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What would be the reason this is unenforceable?
Name one other product or service that issues damages if you use that product in a way they determine unfit?
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:17 am to Rebel
Possibly unenforceable, but you’ll likely spend more money hiring an attorney and going through their arbitration procedures before figuring it out
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:18 am to Rebel
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Name one other product or service that issues damages if you use that product in a way they determine unfit?
The bank
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:19 am to stout
What is a SHAFT violation?
Seems uncomfortable.
Seems uncomfortable.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:21 am to Corinthians420
Banks may deny service. But they don’t issue fines.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:26 am to udtiger
Sounds like if you text someone a picture of a bud of weed, you have agreed to be fined up to a thousand dollars.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:26 am to stout
Not that I think ATT is better, but I need a new phone so I guess this is a good time to switch.
Pixel 6 Pro has connection issues, thought it was just where I work, but seems pretty widespread. Can get the 8 Pro for free.
Pixel 6 Pro has connection issues, thought it was just where I work, but seems pretty widespread. Can get the 8 Pro for free.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:33 am to Rebel
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Sounds like if you text someone a picture of a bud of weed, you have agreed to be fined up to a thousand dollars.
Sad part is people actually believe this
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:34 am to stout
Sounds like this is the beginning of the end for sending dick pics.
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