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re: Supreme Court reverses manslaughter conviction of Will Smith killer.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:56 pm to Vote4MikeAck504
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:56 pm to Vote4MikeAck504
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Exactly what I said. This “unanimous jury” bull shite law will let guilty AF murderers walk. Welcome to a world where less than 25% of murders in NOLA result in a conviction.
Meh, it doesn't really work that way in practice. Every other state requires unanimous juries, and it can work both ways.
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:19 am to SloaneRanger
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Every other state requires unanimous juries, and it can work both ways.
I believe Oregon also convicted on a 10-2 count as well. Only 2 states if I remember right.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:28 am to OleWar
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Up to our new District Attorney
That's only if the new DA decides before he is likely in prison for these tax fraud charges he is about to go to court for. We all know the Feds' conviction rate for cases that go to court.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:39 am to Spasweezy
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Smith was a piece of shite. He threatened to kill Hayes. Hayes killed Smith in self defense. Hung jury incoming for the retrial.
Smith was a drunk a-hole, but Hayes admitted that he got out of his vehicle with his gun in hand after running into the back of Smith's car (most likely because he was pissed off) and he never said that Smith threatened to kill him. He said that Smith said "I'm going to get my gun" as Smith was standing there with his gun. Was Smith not allowed to have his gun for possible self-defense since Hayes had his gun?
Hayes then said on the stand that Smith punched him, then said he thought Smith shot at him first and then he said he didn't shoot Smith's wife in the leg. He just wasn't credible and no one backed up his story (not even his friend riding with him). He lost control and shot Smith in the back 7 times. He went to the slammer for good reasons.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:41 am to Big EZ Tiger
I don’t know too much about the shooting but
Relatively well known Will had a mistress in town. Who is a lot less attractive than the widow. People are crazy. A wife that hot and have to have some 6/10 poon. I guess what they say is true - show me a beautiful woman and there is probably a dude that’s tired of fricking her
Also the whole bonding out of jail thing after the dragging by hair incident
Relatively well known Will had a mistress in town. Who is a lot less attractive than the widow. People are crazy. A wife that hot and have to have some 6/10 poon. I guess what they say is true - show me a beautiful woman and there is probably a dude that’s tired of fricking her
Also the whole bonding out of jail thing after the dragging by hair incident
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 12:42 am
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:57 am to OleWar
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And the Supreme Court ruled in April that they were unconstitutional nation wide.
I can’t remember was this Blanket across country or when state moves away from unanimous juries when cases still going through appeals.
If blanket Did the Supreme Oligarchy point out why this specific verbiage wasn’t always considered a constitutional requirement or when an amendment added this verbiage to constitution?
Posted on 1/12/21 at 7:13 am to phil good
Case has some interesting side stories, wonder if they will be revisited.
Drew Brees attended the original trial in support of the widow, which in this case could have helped sway public opinion against the black defendant, Cardell Hayes, whose conviction has now been deemed unsupportable by law.
Say his name.
A revenge motive was initially floated by police as Cardell Hayes father according to reports "was shot to death by police in 2005 and his lawsuit against the department was settled for an undisclosed sum. A photo taken Saturday night showed Smith with ... one of the officers named in the lawsuit.”
Say his name.
Apologies for WAPO link
Drew Brees attended the original trial in support of the widow, which in this case could have helped sway public opinion against the black defendant, Cardell Hayes, whose conviction has now been deemed unsupportable by law.
Say his name.
A revenge motive was initially floated by police as Cardell Hayes father according to reports "was shot to death by police in 2005 and his lawsuit against the department was settled for an undisclosed sum. A photo taken Saturday night showed Smith with ... one of the officers named in the lawsuit.”
Say his name.
Apologies for WAPO link
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:57 pm to SloaneRanger
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Meh, it doesn't really work that way in practice. Every other state requires unanimous juries, and it can work both ways.
Every other state is not Louisiana, possibly the most violent crime and murder plagued state per capita in the country... and every city is not New Orleans, with its "40 year low" of murders in 2019 that still put it among the 5 cities with the highest murder rates in the U.S..
Only about 1/3 or murders in New Orleans, as of 2019, resulted in an arrest. Probably significantly fewer than that for 2020. Unanimous jury verdicts is only going to make things worse.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:59 pm to Vote4MikeAck504
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Only about 1/3 or murders in New Orleans, as of 2019, resulted in an arrest.
sounds like a great place to "try it out" if you were ever curious about being able to get away with it
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:11 pm to OleWar
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He did, but he claimed Smith had a gun, and that gun was removed from the scene.
He actually didn't claim this at trial, because it was so ridiculous. State put on the PI who the defense bpaid to spread that manufactured rumor, as well as the NOPD reserve officer they falsely accused of doing it, to dismantle it in front of the jury.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:29 pm to Bucktail1
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He did, but he claimed Smith had a gun, and that gun was removed from the scene.
He shot a person 7 times in the back while advancing, the final shot so close that the shell casing ejected into the vehicle Will Smith was slumped into. Not a single shot into the front of his torso.
When Hayes got out of his car holding a handgun, should Will Smith not have the opportunity to attempt put himself on equal footing with Hayes?
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:44 pm to tLSU
Defer to this dude.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 10:57 pm to DeCat ODahouse
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Cardell Hayes, whose conviction has now been deemed unsupportable by law.
Based on substance or procedure? Spewing stupid shite?
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:06 am to OleWar
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was never used, and there was no indication that Smith had the gun on him
Cop kills a guy with a gun and all hell breaks loose. Thug kills a guy with no gun and he walks free.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:39 am to The Boat
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When it happened Lester Earl was pretty much the only poster defending Hayes here. If it happened today he’d be bowing down at Will Smith’s alter.
It’s a bit of a toss up because Hayes is a brother but being an NFL player in Trump’s America would be the deciding factor for Lester.
This, AF.
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