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re: Suicide is now the 10th leading cause of death in the US
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:27 pm to ThatMakesSense
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:27 pm to ThatMakesSense
My father and my family lost their home twice in an 8 year span and then was moved across the country to be near me.
Before his recent suicide attempt his anxiety would get so bad he would actually sit and shake like he was having a seizure because he couldn’t get rid of all the worrisome thoughts going through his head 24/7. Despite meds and starting to see a therapist he just couldn’t turn it off in his head and just think calmly.
Yet you seem to think a 69 year old man with other health issues that can barely walk can just magically “snap out of it”.
Before his recent suicide attempt his anxiety would get so bad he would actually sit and shake like he was having a seizure because he couldn’t get rid of all the worrisome thoughts going through his head 24/7. Despite meds and starting to see a therapist he just couldn’t turn it off in his head and just think calmly.
Yet you seem to think a 69 year old man with other health issues that can barely walk can just magically “snap out of it”.
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:28 pm to lsunurse
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I should tell all his doctors this amazing revelation
No. You just need to tell him to be happy. Duh.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:31 pm to lsunurse
Not to be rude but, I said earlier I don't care to know your personal situation.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:32 pm to ThatMakesSense
Well continue to stay in your ignorance about this topic then.
There are people in this thread that have personally dealt with mentally ill family members(or have their own mental illness). We know a good bit about this subject.
There are people in this thread that have personally dealt with mentally ill family members(or have their own mental illness). We know a good bit about this subject.
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:33 pm to High C
I think it’s going to keep getting rising.
The fact is many people today lack the social networks of previous generation. They have less real human interaction, companionship, and visceral experience. They are isolated and fixated in a world that isn’t reality. Additionally, things are too easy. There is no struggle.
I mean that in a physiological sense. The history of our species was based on survival and struggle. I believe it gives you your reason to live. And when you take that out and play Fortnite every day instead of working or having real experiences, suddenly you lose your reason to live.
The fact is many people today lack the social networks of previous generation. They have less real human interaction, companionship, and visceral experience. They are isolated and fixated in a world that isn’t reality. Additionally, things are too easy. There is no struggle.
I mean that in a physiological sense. The history of our species was based on survival and struggle. I believe it gives you your reason to live. And when you take that out and play Fortnite every day instead of working or having real experiences, suddenly you lose your reason to live.
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:37 pm to lsunurse
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Well continue to stay in your ignorance about this topic then.
If I decided to be indignant about every spite handed to people in the course of humanity, I'd probably have zero energy to live my life.
Excuse me for not having any pity on persons who choose their own fate, regardless of their situation.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:39 pm to ThatMakesSense
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It's really not as complicated as everyone wants to make it out as.
It is though. It's not as simple as people suddenly changing their pattern of thinking.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:39 pm to mule74
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The fact is many people today lack the social networks of previous generation. They have less real human interaction, companionship, and visceral experience. They are isolated and fixated in a world that isn’t reality. Additionally, things are too easy. There is no struggle.
I think this is a huge factor in adolescent and yong adult suicide.
I can see this in the lives of popular figures too. People being around them only because they're famous and wealthy, nobody is genuine.
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:42 pm to ThatMakesSense
Hope you never have to deal with the what if's of suicide. I have had 3 people very close to me commit suicide in the last 5 years. It was totally out of character for all 3. Just unexplainable. Ages were 20, 33 and 64. All males.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:43 pm to ThatMakesSense
Continue being part of the problem then.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:44 pm to ThatMakesSense
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The argument of mental health being a stigma is beyond absurd, especially in the PC society we live in where people bend over backwards for ANY medical condition.
Or maybe.. There is a better understanding of mental health today than ever before.
This was days after Katrina, but someone asked my mom and her husband for a favor. It was the son of my mom's husband's daughter's ex-husband (I know, that sounds trashy or whatever else yall come up with), but his girlfriend's parents home flooded and they had no where to go so he called my mom and asked them if they could stay with them for awhile.
It's something I will never forget, but I went over to my mom's house after work.. And I was outside.. And the husband (the one whose house flooded) came outside and just sat down. I've never seen someone with so much sorrow and pain in their eyes. He was zoned out as if he was in his own world. Later on my mom told me that he actually suffered with mental illness for a few years and had finally been showing signs of getting things together.. And just like that, after the storm hit, whatever progress he made went out of the window.
That situation stayed with me for awhile and it all came down to the look I saw in that man's eyes. It was something I have never seen in a person before.
I am not saying everyone who kills themselves are truly battling with mental illness, but most people who kill themselves are likely dealing with some type of mental illness. Think about what it would take to drive someone to do that? Why would someone with a family, a good job, etc just up and decide "you know what? I really don't want to live anymore. There really isn't a reason why I don't want to live anymore. I feel good, I love my family, working is going as good as it can, but frick it".
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:46 pm to OweO
People who pretend that genuine mental health problem can be solved by "just being tougher" or "be happier" are ignorant and probably always will be.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I said that when talking about this with my husband earlier, fame just creates yes friends. No one will tell you no.
Social media in regular lives is also an issue. You see everyone else so happy and struggle because you don't have that. But people post their best on social media. Rarely their struggles.
Social media in regular lives is also an issue. You see everyone else so happy and struggle because you don't have that. But people post their best on social media. Rarely their struggles.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:49 pm to CorporateTiger
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People who pretend that genuine mental health problem can be solved by "just being tougher" or "be happier" are ignorant and probably always will be.
No more ignorant than those who think every person can be helped. Or we can save those who don’t want to be saved.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:54 pm to HoustonChick86
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Mental illness is no joke. We really need to take it more seriously as a country.
You can't take it more seriously. It's not allowed. Mental illness no longer exists. It is now a lifestyle choice protected and defended by the masses and politicians.
We live in a bizarrely twisted and fricked up society.
We have it better than any other humans in the history of humanity and yet we are more miserable and depressed than ever before.
Human beings, it seems, cannot be happy at a massive sociological level. We have some kind of evolutionary or psychological block on a large scale from accepting happiness.
Americans have, on a large scale, eliminated all of the problems that plagued humanity for thousands of years. We are now inventing problems instead of basking in glory.
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:56 pm to lsunurse
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Continue being part of the problem then
frick is wrong with you?
Would you like an insincere apology or promise to help with suicide prevention?
I'll tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear. Surely in your profession, you would be understanding of that.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 8:59 pm to ThatMakesSense
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I'll tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear. Surely in your profession, you would be understanding of that.
It might be straight talk, but it is still nonsense. Go volunteer at a hospital or get some perspective or something. Because your viewpoint is stupid.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:00 pm to ThatMakesSense
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ThatMakesSense
Your kind of an uneducated dipshit dude
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:01 pm to crazy4lsu
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It might be straight talk, but it is still nonsense. Go volunteer at a hospital or get some perspective or something. Because your viewpoint is stupid.
Why the frick would I want to do that? Even if I did, I wouldn't take someone's problems home with me.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:02 pm to Breesus
Thoughts and prayers.
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