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re: Stupid Question About D Day

Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:27 pm to
Posted by WWII Collector
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:27 pm to
I am sure that I have posted this here before because it's on imgur.... can't directly upload here.. ugghhhh...

But this is the real deal.. US Army Printed Normandy Map.. Jan 1944

This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 11:28 pm
Posted by WWII Collector
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:29 pm to
Damn it... I can't link a photo..
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:34 pm to
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I can't remember which... But I believe the Second SS was all but wiped out at kursk... or sumsuch



It did take heavy losses at Kursk. But it was far from wiped out. Also, Kursk took place a year before the Normandy campaign. The year in between the two battles saw Das Reich transferred to Southern France where it was brought back up to strength.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:36 pm to
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It did take heavy losses at Kursk. But it was far from wiped out. Also, Kursk took place a year before the Normandy campaign. The year in between the two battles saw Das Reich transferred to Southern France where it was brought back up to strength.



I just can;t remember... I'll probably put on some more Eastern Front videos... But I remember one of them (some SS Division) was almost totally obliterated.. May have been at Moscow.
Posted by Cfrobel
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:53 pm to
Das Reich took a beating while attached to Army Group Center. Of course at that time it was made up of two former SS-VT regiments of questionable quality and a poor quality SS-TV regiment.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:56 pm to
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I have read and heard numerous stories.. The guys hit the beach expecting bomb craters that they could take cover in, but there were none... Nothing but open flat sand with no place to take cover.

My dad was a WWII junkie so I grew up hearing and watching documentaries about that war. Somehow, I don’t remember ever knowing this but it’s a sadly fascinating detail. How many lives could have been saved with just some cover?
Posted by WWII Collector
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:01 am to
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My dad was a WWII junkie so I grew up hearing and watching documentaries about that war. Somehow, I don’t remember ever knowing this but it’s a sadly fascinating detail. How many lives could have been saved with just some cover?


That was it exactly... Just a hole in the ground to jump into... They were expecting it,, But it came as a terrible surprise.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:05 am to
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That was it exactly... Just a hole in the ground to jump into... They were expecting it,, But it came as a terrible surprise.

Can you imagine their thoughts as they finally made it to the beach after watching so many die just trying to get there and discovered there were no holes, no respite? It had to be clear to them that they were likely just going to catch bullets in hope the guy behind him makes it.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:15 am to
Bombing TF out of a beach isn't always ideal; having to trudge through sand while burdened with tons of equipment is hard enough without the beach being pockmarked everywhere
Posted by DaTiger
Some place warm....
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 7:30 am to
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Why didn’t we just bomb the beach area to oblivion before the invasion?


We did. Bombed and shelled extensively. There were many hardened bunkers all along that beach...(see Atlantic Wall). Also, targeting of bombs in the 1940’s was very primitive and not very accurate.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 7:50 am to
Speaking of the Atlantic Wall, the Germans spent years building it, and the Allies got through it in 9 hours—Stephen Ambrose

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