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re: Statistics on black on black crimes, police on black killing
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:05 am to PeteRose
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:05 am to PeteRose
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FBI study from 2007-2012 concluded that police forces kill 492 people per year.
LINK
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there is no reliable national database for keeping track of the number of people killed by police each year. The FBI tracks homicides by law enforcement officers, but participation is voluntary, and many agencies don’t participate.
Even high profile deaths like Eric Garner being suffocated are not included.
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:06 am to Pettifogger
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Opposite. I think in 2013 about 13-15% of murders of whites were black on white.
About 7 percent of murders of black people were white on black.
I'm pretty sure it goes up considerably (black on white crime) for lesser offenses, but I can't find those breakdowns.
Yeah, I either got it mixed up or I was thinking of the difference in likelihood of a black on white vs white on black murder.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:10 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:09 am to molsusports
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Even high profile deaths like Eric Garner being suffocated are not included.
The fbi stats are always at least a year behind because of the effort to accurately report them.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:12 am to Five0
they aren't reported because not all states voluntarily report deaths caused by police. it being a voluntary thing means many places opt out rather than provide the data.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:35 am to Pettifogger
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Post the black on white crime statistics too please.
I've looked and for some reason (
) it's hard to find. I found this link on murder rates... LINK
As for a total listing of all crimes, that's hard to verify. I looked on the same FBI website and did not find anything. I did find things like this though....
I've not been able to verify these numbers though. Looks like the subject of black on white crime rates is something not many people want to look at.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:36 am to Darth_Vader
No of course not. No one wants to pay attention to stats
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:38 am to PeteRose
Frick you and your stats. We know, you don't like black people.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:40 am to HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
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I wish there was a way that we could give black people in this country their own country. They can be so happy if that happened. No more whitey problems, they can choose to have police or not, they can have Obama, and they can have Jesse Jackson and al sharpie.
There it is! That old fashioned, grandparents style racism. Nice form sir
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:41 am to gthog61
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My takeaway from those stats is a country of over 300 million people is policed with only 500 deaths per year, most of which are justified.
Instances of police misconduct should be prosecuted but it isn't an "epidemic".
Think of the millions upon millions of interactions that police have with citizens on think of the state those a monthly and yearly basis. Think of what sorts of situations they are called in to. It doesn't justify all of the deaths, but if police were out to "get" people, it would be much higher.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:42 am to Grim
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There it is! That old fashioned, grandparents style racism. Nice form sir
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:50 am to PeteRose
People really don't want to hear the truth. Stop trying.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:56 am to gthog61
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My takeaway from those stats is a country of over 300 million people is policed with only 500 deaths per year, most of which are justified. Instances of police misconduct should be prosecuted but it isn't an "epidemic".
thank you someone with some common sense
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:17 am to hillcountrywanderer
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by hillcountrywanderer People really don't want to hear the truth. Stop trying.
Ok. I'll stop. Let the killing problems continue. The world is over populated anyway. I hope your kids/wife are next victims.
You can ignore reality but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:20 am to PeteRose
CNN posted an interesting stat recently about police killings in the US.
Blacks killied by police 233
Whites killed by police 433
Hispanic 138
Azn 15
Other 311
Not sure what other means but it was interesting. Although if we go by population % I don't know how it skews. Just food for thought
Blacks killied by police 233
Whites killed by police 433
Hispanic 138
Azn 15
Other 311
Not sure what other means but it was interesting. Although if we go by population % I don't know how it skews. Just food for thought
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:25 am to PeteRose
Seems the OP likes numbers. According to the US DOJ:
84% of whites killed from 1980 to 2008 were killed by whites. In 2012 alone it was 88%. Black on black murder dropped from 94% to 91% in the same year
53.3% of all gang murders between 1980 and 2008 were committed by whites
whites lead every other ethnic group 2:1 when it comes to forcible rapes, larceny and grand theft.
Of whites that kill, 36% of them are white women, higher than any other enthnic group
See how fun numbers can be OP?
84% of whites killed from 1980 to 2008 were killed by whites. In 2012 alone it was 88%. Black on black murder dropped from 94% to 91% in the same year
53.3% of all gang murders between 1980 and 2008 were committed by whites
whites lead every other ethnic group 2:1 when it comes to forcible rapes, larceny and grand theft.
Of whites that kill, 36% of them are white women, higher than any other enthnic group
See how fun numbers can be OP?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:31 am to PeteRose
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Ok. I'll stop. Let the killing problems continue. The world is over populated anyway. I hope your kids/wife are next victims.
Damn, dude. That's totally fricked up and waaaaay over the line. What's wrong with you?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:34 am to Darth_Vader
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Damn, dude. That's totally fricked up and waaaaay over the line. What's wrong with you?
i was trying to prove a point of ignoring reality. Like my "hoping' has an affect on the outcome. Stop being dramatic like you're sitting on some lame arse high horse.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:36 am to PeteRose
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i was trying to prove a point of ignoring reality
Well you failed miserably.
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Like my "hoping' has an affect on the outcome.
It's still probably one of the shittest things I've ever seen posted on this site.
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Stop being dramatic like you're sitting on some lame arse high horse.
I don't need a high horse to know I'm above wishing harm on someone's wife and kids. It take a real piece of dog shite to say something like that.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 10:37 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:36 am to PeteRose
83% of white murder victims were killed by other whites. What exactly is the OPs point?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:40 am to carlsoda
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CNN posted an interesting stat recently about police killings in the US.
Blacks killied by police 233
Whites killed by police 433
Hispanic 138
Azn 15
Other 311
Not sure what other means but it was interesting. Although if we go by population % I don't know how it skews. Just food for thought
The first obvious question is how they obtained their data because there is no good national source for that sort of thing.
If you took that at face value and used the census data you'd think it very strange how many "others" there were and you'd be struck that the percentages of those killed are different from the general population:
White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent definition , 2013 62.6%
Black or African American alone, percent definition 2013 (a) 13.2%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent definition 2013 (a) 1.2%
Asian alone, percent definition and source info Asian alone, percent, 2013 (a) 5.3%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone, percent definition 2013 (a) 0.2%
Two or More Races, percent definition, 2013 2.4%
Hispanic or Latino, percent definition 2013 (b) 17.1%
In spite of what some people assume most murders occur within the same racial groups (e.g. white on white and black on black crimes are more common). Police killings of black people are therefore still high as a percentage of the total population even if you make the false assumption that prosecution and conviction outcomes are similar between different economic and racial groups.
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