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State Judge dismisses lawsuit by Parish against big O&G
Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:50 pm
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I have no doubt that there has been damage done to the wetlands and can be directly tied back to the O&G companies. It seems like it's going to be a clusterfrick with literally thousands of companies having a hand in it. I'm guessing they will just target the deepest pockets. But how far does the state go to protect it's bread and butter?
I'm sure the dumping of oilfield waste and brine into our waters has been an issue but I think the real and major issue is the creation of all the canals cross crossing the marshes it seems like everywhere and the constant dredging of them. That is by far the biggest reason for the loss of wetlands outside of the damming of the river.
Do these or did these companies that came and dug these canals not have to submit a land reclamation plan prior to slicing up the marsh? I would think so. Anytime state land is used it should always be land restoration following any and all work.
Also with JBE in the executive suite up there in Baton Rouge will that help or hurt any "administrative" remedy to the situation? I remember during the election cycle hearing a bunch about trial lawyers this and trial lawyers that...
What you guys think about this situation?
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Judge Stephen Enright's decision, dated Aug. 1 and made public Tuesday, says the parish's court action was premature. He agreed with oil industry lawyers who said the parish must first seek and exhaust administrative remedies through state regulatory agencies.
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At issue are coastal oil production areas where oil companies are accused of routinely abandoning open waste pits, dumping brine and oilfield waste onto the marsh and dredging thousands of miles of canals that weren't filled back in.
I have no doubt that there has been damage done to the wetlands and can be directly tied back to the O&G companies. It seems like it's going to be a clusterfrick with literally thousands of companies having a hand in it. I'm guessing they will just target the deepest pockets. But how far does the state go to protect it's bread and butter?
I'm sure the dumping of oilfield waste and brine into our waters has been an issue but I think the real and major issue is the creation of all the canals cross crossing the marshes it seems like everywhere and the constant dredging of them. That is by far the biggest reason for the loss of wetlands outside of the damming of the river.
Do these or did these companies that came and dug these canals not have to submit a land reclamation plan prior to slicing up the marsh? I would think so. Anytime state land is used it should always be land restoration following any and all work.
Also with JBE in the executive suite up there in Baton Rouge will that help or hurt any "administrative" remedy to the situation? I remember during the election cycle hearing a bunch about trial lawyers this and trial lawyers that...
What you guys think about this situation?
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 11:59 pm to SuperSaint
This is and will remain to be a complex social,scientific, and legal problem that will continue unresolved until the whole coast is gone...just saying...it's sad
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:05 am to gaetti15
I think it all starts with the state officials allowing the seperate parishes to actually go after their hommies on the O&G boards and making them remedy these canals back to original state all throughout the individual parishes.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:14 am to SuperSaint
Yeah that is a part of it, I might be a bit pessimistic but we are past the point of no return in southeast Louisiana. The coast is eroding and all of the proposed actions have taken too long to occur.
It's sad but a lot of politics and politically influenced science has, I think, effectively ended many areas along the coast for the future.
Short of making all of the Mississippi River flow into the the Atchafalaya.
It's sad but a lot of politics and politically influenced science has, I think, effectively ended many areas along the coast for the future.
Short of making all of the Mississippi River flow into the the Atchafalaya.
This post was edited on 8/10/16 at 12:17 am
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:32 am to gaetti15
The damage is done. It can't be undone now.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:55 am to SG_Geaux
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The damage is done. It can't be undone now.
This is extremely lazy
It can't be undone but could be mitigated and steps can be taken to slow the losing of wetlands and possibly just possibly that BP money can be used wisely enough helping to restore lands.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:00 am to SuperSaint
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just possibly that BP money can be used wisely enough helping to restore lands.
Look at all the proposals from the master plan...they suggest zero net land gain/loss plans ...
i.e. keep the coast from losing more land and trying our very best to prevent that or at least counteract that land loss.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:33 am to SuperSaint
You sound like you've read Rising Tide. if not, you'd probably like it.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:55 am to SuperSaint
quote:You're forgetting what state you live in
possibly just possibly that BP money can be used wisely enough helping to restore lands
Posted on 8/10/16 at 7:03 am to SuperSaint
Loss ah goo feeyshin in dem conalls, los ah lan ohwnars ax dat awl company nah ta feel dat conall een.
This post was edited on 8/10/16 at 11:39 am
Posted on 8/10/16 at 10:21 am to gaetti15
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Short of making all of the Mississippi River flow into the the Atchafalaya.
The fact is, we wouldn't have to make it, it wants to on its own (at least most of it does). We've taken extraordinary measures to ensure it doesn't go that direction. Some of those measures contribute significantly to both the erosion problem and the dead zone issues at the mouth of the Mississippi.
Many of the canals that are in question were dredged decades ago, In many cases, those canals were taken over by state or local agencies and kept navigable (some, probably many, would fill in on their own with silt) at the behest of commercial and recreational fishermen.
It's not a simple situation and it would be better for everyone if all parties came together to find a workable solution. If the current market economics were better for the oil companies, the majors would probably relish the opportunity to get positive PR out of this.
Hopefully, something positive can happen soon, instead of this type of situation that ultimately enriches lawyers and put the money in the hands of politicians who then dole it out for political gain, rather than its intended purpose.
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