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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:18 pm to NbamaTiger90
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:18 pm to NbamaTiger90
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Stop slapping these thugs on the bottom and telling them that its the white mans fault for their struggle. Shoot these animals like the diseased dogs that they are and society will benefit greatly. Yea, ghetto mom on the news will proclaim that rayray was unjustly gunned down. But who really gives a frick?
The world would be better if everyone like you was dead too.
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:18 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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My bad, I dont know that was his exact words. Report was that the deceased refused the officers lawful command. I apologize for putting a real world spin on it
Cop sees kids walking in the middle of the street. Cops pull up next to kids.
Cop: "Get out of the fricking street right now you little shits."
Mike brown: "Officer we are crossing the street to get to my grandmothers house right there."
Cop: "you back talking me? I said get the frick out the street right now."
Cop opens car door, door hits brown and bounces back into cop. Cop proceeds to attempt to arrest brown, etc.
Oh I'm sorry, there's too much fault on the cop's behalf for that to be an acceptable real world spin I'm sure.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:19 pm to the808bass
Hers the deal, as a competent human being, I'm sure Mike's ears and eyes worked. I'm also sure he had the mental capacity to observe if a car was coming and get out if the way. As do most humans. The cop did not need to approach. There was no reason for him to approach. It was at his discretion that he approached.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:19 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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Report was that the deceased refused the officers lawful command.
To get off the street? Really? You trolling?
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:19 pm to Topwater Trout
This was obviously not a typical stop. We don't know exactly why such a silly incident lead to a person dying of multiple gunshot wounds. Multiple. More than a couple the police admitted.
Why can't some simply agree that this shorting was out of ordinary and wait to see what an investigation finds? Why us that so hard? Cops likely handle such mundane issues every day without anyone being shot multiple times. Why did it happen this one time? Is there not even any curiosity?
People refusing to even question how this lead to a death are as bad as people who insist the cop shot an innocent black baby for no reason. Both sides are too invested in their own story for any intellectual honesty.
Why can't some simply agree that this shorting was out of ordinary and wait to see what an investigation finds? Why us that so hard? Cops likely handle such mundane issues every day without anyone being shot multiple times. Why did it happen this one time? Is there not even any curiosity?
People refusing to even question how this lead to a death are as bad as people who insist the cop shot an innocent black baby for no reason. Both sides are too invested in their own story for any intellectual honesty.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:19 pm to LSUGrrrl
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Are you telling me that an officer should deal with a jaywalker the same as a crackhead?
No, I used crackhead as an example because they can be some of the hardest to deal with and very frustrating ( never shot one as a result)
quote:From my understanding he approached this situation by telling them to get out of the road. Maybe he didnt coddle him with his words enough.
Are you saying that there aren't degrees of offenses and they shouldn't be approached with degrees of escalation?
quote:No idea. I wasnt there. Maybe the cop was power tripping and and made Mike feel like defensive. What im saying is that when someone becomes confrontational with you, you have to make a decision. In law enforcement there is a thing called "tactical retreat". That means back away and wait for backup. This possibly could have prevented this situation. I dont know. I wasnt there. Im just trying to give a law enforcement insight on possibilities.
Are you saying that the cop couldn't have done anything other than what he did to keep from escalating this (without even knowing what he did)?
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:20 pm to beebefootballfan
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Most inner city black families have no discipline, no daddy, and no education. They trust no one, especially cops.
It is a culture problem. Plain and simple. Cops could go 20 years without a case of police brutality and it wouldn't change a damn thing about your post.
It doesn't make it right, but you're naive if you think it will change anything.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:21 pm to beebefootballfan
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White suburban kids, like myself, were raised to fear and respect law enforcement. If a cop told me to do something I did it, no questions asked. Most kids who come from stable educated homes can pull this off.
This is a crock of fricking shite.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:22 pm to beebefootballfan
I understand what u are saying but at the end if the day all citizens of this country (whether their fractured families are subsidized or not) must abide by the law. If they choose not to do so then that is on them. We can't have a separate set of law and police procedure based on the color of you skin, that is racist.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:23 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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In law enforcement there is a thing called "tactical retreat". That means back away and wait for backup. This possibly could have prevented this situation. I dont know. I wasnt there.
All I wanted to hear a logical person say
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:23 pm to reedus23
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So the eyewitness is credible?
I have no idea that is why I said per the eyewitness
He also said he didn't raise his hands and say don't shoot til after being shot
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:23 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:No they'll just delete his posts.
Don't get this thread whacked with this nonsense.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:23 pm to NbamaTiger90
You're a bird brain.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:24 pm to The Third Leg
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This is a crock of fricking shite.
I agree. ive run across plenty of rich, entitled white kids that thought nobody could tell them what to do.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:25 pm to Topwater Trout
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He also said he didn't raise his hands and say don't shoot til after being shot
Was he shot again after raising his hands? You don't know. Neither do we.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:25 pm to tilco
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We can't have a separate set of law and police procedure based on the color of you skin, that is racist.
You think a lot of kids get arrested in Ladue for walking in the street? Clayton? Chesterfield?
I'd bet not.
So is the application of a law differently in different zip codes racist in nature?
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:25 pm to Topwater Trout
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I consider it a matter of intelligence. Everyone knows the stereotypes that exist about cops. Even though there are more good ones than bad ones you know that you could be running into someone that may abuse his authority by any number of ways. Could be as minor as simply harassing you or could be as bad as charging you with bullshite charges, beating or even killing you. So what does an intelligent person do???
A. Roll with it and comply?
B. challenge his authority?
I am not one to shy away from confrontation but I also am not going to confront someone I know can frick my world up.
The question for me isn't what do you do at that moment. I get what you're saying and that's completely reasonable. For me the question is what can be done so that those bad ones aren't going around killing people or beating them or whatever the case might be. Just rolling over every time it happens and never doing anything will never change things.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:25 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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I agree. ive run across plenty of rich, entitled white kids that thought nobody could tell them what to do.
Meh, he said "most", and I don't believe some entitled jackass exceptions change that.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:25 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:Yup, I wonder if he has seen any of those stupid Housewives of ..... shows on tv. Damn
I agree. ive run across plenty of rich, entitled white kids that thought nobody could tell them what to do.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:25 pm to RebelOP
Too bad.
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