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re: St. George Responds to Economist Study

Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41838 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:10 pm to
EBR has a lengthy planning and permitting process. It's too long and is very expensive. IMHO, this part of parish govt. has failed.

Then there are those who seem to get "favors" and kind of get by through loopholes.

Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12646 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:22 pm to
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I realize it won't happen over night, but ISDs work in Texas and they can work here.


Look no further than Central and Zachary.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:28 pm to
If you have cash it is a rubber stamp.
ST Tammany is a bear to deal with.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41838 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:31 pm to
Yes
Some seem to find convenient loopholes
Posted by LSUneaux
Metairie and MAGA AF
Member since Mar 2014
4796 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:25 pm to
How is it that French Settlement has this incorporation thing figured out, but one of the largest collections of people with college degrees in the state (not that there are many groups) is having problems with this?
Posted by Lsuhack1
Member since Feb 2018
866 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 7:30 am to
I just have one question for the together Baton Rouge people, do you really believe that one of the most affluent groups of people in Louisiana is not going to be able to survive and offer its residents more and better services than they currently receive?
No one voting for st George cares if they get a small tax hike. Hell if there is one thing in life that is constant that is you pay more in taxes over the long run.
They care about the deplorable services.
They care about being in an economic development meeting and hearing that your project is in the wrong part of the parish so the city parish government won’t assist you.
They care about the horrible school districts. They don’t want to move to Zachary because it’s forever from their job. So they pay for private. Private schools attendance would drastically decrease overnight if there was an isd.
Edit:
The biggest issue is that they have let the together br make this debate over a budget and no one has the right numbers. Talk about how you are going to improve the status quo and say even the worst estimates would only mean $30 per family. Or whatever that number is.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 8:10 am
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1948 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 8:06 am to
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That was not a professionally worded response.


That was not an official response. That was a facebook post. There IS a difference.

Understand the context in where came from and to who the response is meant for...a facebook forum.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6763 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 8:27 am to
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No one voting for st George cares if they get a small tax hike.


Then why are the St. George organizers going out of their way to tell everyone their taxes won't go up?
Posted by the paradigm
Moon Township, PA
Member since Sep 2017
5417 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 8:34 am to
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you are not going to get a bunch of kids to get taken out of Parkview and St. George and MBS and St. Jude and send them to some new fancy school that will still have shitty students in it.


The point is that the shitty students (at least the majority) will be gone. There won’t be any transfer buses/bussing in of students from other parts of the parish the way EBR does. I don't care who goes to my son's school, as long as they live in that school district. Bussing kids in from other parts of the city is plain bull shite.

Yes, there are some families who would send their kids to private schools regardless of how good the public schools are. Then there are people like me, who can't really afford private, but I'll make any sacrifices I have to make to avoid sending my son to an EBR public middle school. That's why St. George is right up my alley. A solid public school system would be great for folks like me.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 8:36 am
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7833 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 8:52 am to
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That was not an official response. That was a facebook post. There IS a difference.

Understand the context in where came from and to who the response is meant for...a facebook forum.



In today's world no there is not. Employers use social media to vet employees. It's a public forum choose your words wisely. Just because it doesn't have an "official" tag on it doesn't mean it won't have implications.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7833 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 8:53 am to
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Look no further than Central and Zachary.



Watson refuses to incorporate and seem to be doing fine, but they have one of the best public schools in the state and aren't in EBR to be fair.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
25163 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:06 am to
Richardson is an assclown. He’s making bank from Lsu for credentialing a bunch of cultcha through a masters program (who have no business in college level course much less masters level) to prop up diversity numbers While doing no educating.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:06 am to
I do not think the organizers care if their employer which means them vets them as they are self employed

I guess you work for someone seems like maybe BRAC or BRAF. You do not want to disappoint the establishment that pays your salary, so chop chop get back to work destroying tax payers rights to vote on an issue.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 9:10 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41838 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:55 am to
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Then why are the St. George organizers going out of their way to tell everyone their taxes won't go up?

No one is going out of their way.
Even the mayor says SG is going to run a surplus. That's why organizers are saying that the new city of SG won't require a tax increase.



Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7833 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:22 am to
Lmao is every so delusional they automatically assume ones whole life affiliations and work history based on a few sentences on a message board.

I work in private industry for one of the biggest companies in the world. I also am very good at my job. Good enough where if a take ten minutes out to occasionally to post here no one bats and eye because I know how to produce.

I also live in the St George area. Didn't sign anything and I'm not going to vote on it because I honestly see no benefit to it.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37740 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:50 am to
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Didn't sign anything and I'm not going to vote on it because I honestly see no benefit to it.


What’s the benefit of keeping the status quo?
Posted by Lsuhack1
Member since Feb 2018
866 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:15 am to
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Then why are the St. George organizers going out of their way to tell everyone their taxes won't go up?


because they are morons letting together baton rouge dictate the pace of play if you will and turning the talking points.
What they should say is even if together baton rouges most dire predictions are correct, which we disagree with it would only equate to "insert number here" extra tax per person per year, and we think that would be a small price to pay for the better services we are offering.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 11:16 am
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4766 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:15 am to
This is what we've come to, if you disagree with something it's "fake news". The article about the study made it clear who paid for the study.

Edit: didn't the St. George people pay for the other study that showed they'd have surplus?

Most people in the St. George area do not want this. If the minority of people want this to happen they should just move someplace more befitting their ideal community. I can't wait for these people to go away.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 11:16 am
Posted by Lsuhack1
Member since Feb 2018
866 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:17 am to
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Most people in the St. George area do not want this. If the minority of people want this to happen they should just move someplace more befitting their ideal community. I can't wait for these people to go away.

St. George will pass if it goes to a vote and it won't be close. People are refusing to sign the petition more because that means that they have taken a clear political view point that can hurt them in the future. Secret ballot this thing passes with flying colors.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37740 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:21 am to
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didn't the St. George people pay for the other study that showed they'd have surplus?


Do you see a difference between a top national firm doing a study and a local nobody who’s in the pockets of together Baton Rouge doing a study?

Which do you think would be more believable?
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minority of people want this to happen they should just move someplace more befitting their ideal community. I can't wait for these people to go away.

Don’t worry. They have been leaving. For about 20 years now. They move out to AP and LP. Which is why those parishes are thriving now and perform in the top of the state when it comes to education. The main driving force behind the push for st George.

And if st George fails. They will continue to leave. And Baton Rouge will continue the decline it’s been in for decades where the middle and upper class flees to better schools and less crime and simply drive into work.

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